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No One Likes to be Called Racist But Hollywood definitely prefers Whites


As Chris Rock said, there are KKK type racists who wanna lynch blacks and then there are people who ACCEPT blacks but subconsciously give preferential treatment to whites without even knowing their doing it. Thats all this #OscarsSoWhite movement is.

People hear Jada and Spike Lee and Chris Rock and the rest of us complaining and alot of you all just see a bunch of butthurt losers bitter their films weren't good enough using the race card to bitch and moan. I get it. I felt the same way, until I thought about it.

Listen, NONE of you are blatant racists...none of you hate blacks or think blacks are less than anyone, so when someone calls you something you are not (a racist), you tune out, start SWINGING, and don't take what they are saying serious.


But you need to listen to us because there IS merit to what we are saying. You have to at least acknowledge that most of Hollywood is white. Very few black, hispanic or asian actors and very few get leading roles. Its not just blacks, its ALL minorities. I want you to hear me out here and just look at things from our perspective and see what we are complaining about. This has been so normal to you that you don't see it. Don't tell us 'work harder' or 'make better movies'. We ARE working hard and we just want the same opportunities white actors get. Lets deal with FACTS.



QUESTION: Why are blacks only considered for civil rights bio pics, drug dealers, slave movies, and other stereotypical roles that REQUIRE a black lead? Why not cast a black actor in a rom com, not all ALL black rom com, but a 'normal' one? Or a horror film? Or a sci-fi film? A black man who is just a stock broker, doctor, or teacher.


Think about it:

How many times has a black male led a mostly white rom com? A Will Smith or Michael B. Jordan type with say Jennifer Aniston or Jennifer Lawrence as the female? Yes Denzel and Will from time to time will be the black lead in a Man on Fire or Independence Day type action film but thats not the norm. Most black actors such as say Taye Diggs or Morris Chestnut only get to be leads in 'black films' like a Tyler Perry film or a THINK LIKE A MAN film. Why is that? Why is there a 'black film' and a 'film'? Thats why it was so awesome when JJ Abrams took the 'chance' and cast John Boyega in STAR WARS. Was there a NEED to make Finn black? No, none at all. But why not?

Color blind casting is what we're looking for. Not handouts. Not affirmative action. We don't want a film to get nominated just because its a 'black film'. We don't want the next Marlon Wayans spoof to get nominated. But CREED and STRAIGHT OUTTA COMPTON AND CHI-RAQ were Oscar worthy. End of story.



>>> Look how many BLACK ACTORS can carry a film. Who would a studio allow to carry a film?

Denzel Washington.
Will Smith.
Jamie Foxx.
Samuel L. Jackson.
Morgan Freeman.
Michael B. Jordan.
MAYBE Don Cheadle or Forest Whitaker or Anthony Mackie or Idris or Chiwetel.

Maybe. Chadwick Boseman maybe.
Nate Parker is coming on now.

But thats it. What happened to Cuba Gooding Jr., Taye Diggs, Terence Howard, Morris Chestnut, Wesley Snipes, Ving Rhames, Laurence Fishburne, Michael Ealy, etc.?

Are these the only 21 black actors trying to make it Hollywood? Why do we rotate the same 21 black guys yet a new white actor becomes a star almost every month?


You may say, NOT ALL OF THOSE GUYS ARE TALENTED ENOUGH TO DO SO OR HAVE ENOUGH FANS OR HITS. Okay, but do all the white actors who get to carry a film have the most talent or box office clout??





Maybe without a true number comparison it doesn't make sense. Lets add it up. The number of working leading black actors and WHITE ones. If this disparity doesn't make it clear for you...nothing will.


But look how many white actors get to lead a film:

George Clooney
Robert DeNiro
Al Pacino
Jack Nicholson
Sean Penn
Leonardo DiCaprio
Christan Bale
Zac Efron
Miles Teller
Chris Hemsworth
Liam Hemsworth
Liam Neeson
Nicolas Cage
Tom Cruise
Chris Evans
Chris Pratt
Chris Pine
Matt Damon
Bradley Cooper
Matthew McConaughey
Ben Affleck
Casey Affleck
Tom Hanks
Sam Worthington
Ben Foster
Taylor Kitsch
Shia LaBeouf
Daniel Day Lewis
Alec Baldwin
Jeremy Renner
Scott Eastwood
Clint Eastwood
Val Kilmer
Mark Wahlberg
Mark Ruffalo
Eddie Redmayne
Paul Walker (RIP)
Philip Seymour Hoffman (RIP)
Robin Williams (RIP)
Edward Norton
Micheal Keaton
Michael Douglas
Seth Rogen
Joseph Gordon Levitt
James Franco
Tye Sheridan
James MacAvoy
Michael Fassbender
Channing Tatum
Jake Gyllenhaal
Ethan Hawke
Brenton Thwaites
Gerard Butler
Joel Edgerton
Taron Edgerton
Hugh Jackman
Kevin Spacey
Jeff Bridges
Jeff Daniels
Aaron Taylor Johnson
Emile Hirsch
Johnny Depp
Josh Hutcherson
Gary Oldman
Josh Brolin
Owen Wilson
Luke Wilson
Will Ferrel
Adam Sandler
Jim Carrey
Mark Duplass
Aaron Eckhart
Daniel Craig
Henry Cavill
Kiefer Sutherland
Donald Sutherland
Armie Hammer
Andrew Garfield
Kevin Costner
Tobey Maguire
Bryan Cranston
Aaron Paul
Ryan Reynolds
Ryan Gosling
Russell Crowe
Keanu Reeves
Kurt Russell
Jared Leto
Jake Johnson
Viggo Mortensen
Johan Hill
Heath Ledger (RIP)
James Marsden
Bryan Cox
Brad Pitt
Paul Rudd
Jai Courtney
Bruce Willis
Arnold Schwarzenegger
Sylvester Stallone
Harvey Keitel
Jesse Eisenberg
Luke Bracey
Patrick Swayze (RIP)
Michael Caine
Colin Farrell
Willem Dafoe
Ed Harris
David Morse
Alan Rickman (RIP)
Eric Bana
Orlando Bloom
Colin Firth
Jude Law
Robert Downey Jr
Robert Duvall
Kevin Bacon



That's 117 names that I came up with off the top of my head. I could go on and and on and on and on and on but you get the point...


Are all these guys just THAT must more talented or hard working? No.

You may say 'thats all black deserve, blacks dont sell, blacks only make up 13% of America" blah blah blah. None of your excuses hold weight. I can destroy them all. FACTS destroy them all.

More than 13% of blacks in Hollywood wanna make it but very few get the chance. Is it too much for us to ask to be on the same playing field? And if you think it IS too much for us to ask you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself, how do I REALLY FEEL about black people?


Are we REALLY COMPLAINING POINTLESSLY AND CRYING RACE CARD OR DO WE HAVE A POINT? REALLY ASK YOURSELF THIS....




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Except you threw in a lot of white actors who simply are alive (and some who are dead!) but are not all really considered leading men, and then left out a lot of black actors.

People hear Jada and Spike Lee and Chris Rock and the rest of us complaining and alot of you all just see a bunch of butthurt losers bitter their films weren't good enough using the race card to bitch and moan. I get it. I felt the same way, until I thought about it.


You seem to miss that Rock slammed Jada, too.

Color blind casting is what we're looking for.
But when you get it, YOU complaint the role "isn't black enough."

I can destroy them all.

We can see you're a real man.

Is it too much for us to ask to be on the same playing field? And if you think it IS too much for us to ask you need to look in the mirror and ask yourself, how do I REALLY FEEL about black people?


I think you're adorable. And so articulate! To say nothing of laughably PC.




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Typical jealous blacks with self-entitlement.

LOL please the only self-entitlement is the privileged whites that are OVER-represented and want it to stay that way.

And whites do not prefer to watch blacks on the screen. Studios are not going to lose money over your self-entitlement due to bankability.

This has been proven false in other threads on this board. I can bring those facts into this thread if you're too lazy to click.

The Jefferson's is different. Life is nor fair, and nobody owes you anything.

Yes they do. Minorities make up almost HALF of box office revenue (I can site sources if you would like). That means that YES Hollywood does owe them something since they are taking their money.

But we're stuck with ya all.

Is that what the Native-Americans keep saying about the Europeans?


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Really, I didn't know the the ticket stubs have what race you are on them, or perhaps you're counting the films that draw more blacks.

You're an idiot. In Hollywood EVERTHING is tracked. Studios get feedback from every source so they can take that information and better market their films.

Learn something:

***Similarly, while racial minorities are approximately 40 percent of the population, racial minorities directed just 17.8 percent of theatrical films in 2013 and represented only 8 percent of film studio senior management. Only one person of color was a film studio CEO.

The report also reveals that more than half of "frequent moviegoers"—a group that buys half of all domestic movie tickets—are minorities, suggesting that the industry's hiring practices are out of sync with its economic interests.

"What we're finding is that audiences want diverse content," Hunt said. "They want diverse content created by diverse talent. So the industry would increase its odds of success if there was more diversity in the room."***

http://phys.org/news/2015-02-women-minorities-underrepresented-actors-directors.html


Yes, blacks have self-entitlement due to your resentment towards whites who have bent over backwards to be fair. And every time whites pander to another demand from blacks, it won't be enough. You'll push for something else which you think is now owed to you. You defeat yourselves.

Bent over backwards to be fair? You mean the white privilege that people benefit from? You mean a system that has benefitted whites in every conceivable social, political, and economical way for hundreds and hundreds of years? They are not "bending over". There have been blacks that have fought in every major war including the Revolutionary War in 1770 - you know the one that freed us from British control - and were still treated like sh!t and didn't have equal rights for almost 200 years until 1964! While whites benefited. American was made into the superpower it is today because of the free slave labor they received off those blacks that you want to discredit. As a matter of fact they still do it today but instead of blacks they use Hispanics and Asians overseas. So don't speak about anyone bending over they have earned it like everyone else.

Now watch this post get deleted because the truth hurts so much, and due to "self-entitlement", yet your post remains.

Yes because reverse racism is just so real. Stop your whining ninny. 

Reverse Racism does NOT exist:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw_mRaIHb-M

Btw, it's not just Hollywood that "prefers" whites, no offense. Maybe there's a legitimate reason for that.

Really? Have you picked up a newspaper in the last 15 years? You know the world has changed, right? Lol I have news for you there's a lot of people that can't stand you either. I'll buy you a one-way ticket to the middle east and see how quick your pasty behind "bends over".


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You gave me exactly what I wanted to hear: SLAVERY. That's the root of it all the time, hence the racism-card. You're not enslaved anymore, and whites also lived in poverty with repercussions , and no opportunity. But that doesn't matter since the underprivileged whites are not "black".

Even after Slavery. You ever here of Jim Crow and the Civil Rights act of 1964? That's barley 50 years ago. Anyone passed the age of 60 - and that a huge percentage of the world - will remember a time of segregation and racism that were engrained in America via actual LAWS and LEGISTLATION. There's people alive today that went through a time when blacks were treated and considered less human. Pick up a history book.

And you say 40% of the population. Gee, my sources say blacks are 12%. But I see you implied other minorities to pad for the 40%. Now, you will claim that is different than the "buying power" percentage. The dishonesty you are rearing is exactly what drives whites to be "racist".

Yes because blacks, Hispanics, and Asians are considered minorities. Did you not know that? They have complained about lack of diversity as well. Do you need me to bring sources about their decades of complaints? Do you need me to school you on the history of those groups that have been discriminated against by actual laws that were brought about by whites starting with the genocide of Native Americans? Your divide and conquer tactic isn't going to work with me - too smart for that.

And as far as anyone driving you to be racist - save it. You either have it in you or you don't. See people like you are the biggest hypocrites. You claim black people make excuse yet here you are making excuses as to why you have racist views. You're blaming your racism on everyone but yourself. Pathetic.

Hopeless

No that would be you after the academy is DIVERSIFIED!!! 


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