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She banned her child from watching Cinderella and The Little Mermaid???


https://www.google.com/amp/s/metro.co.uk/2018/12/29/keira-knightley-learns-not-f-cinderella-controversial-disney-comments-8290713/amp/

I know this is almost a year old, but I just stumbled across it today, and it's just another sign how ridiculous society is getting.

What the hell is wrong with these people??? Feminism has gone full psychotic at this point. People like this are intent on driving a wedge between men and women, and it's so obnoxious to me.

So Keira won't let her daughter watch an old Disney movie because the woman gets saved by a man, and in her opinion Ariel gives up her voice in The Little Mermaid...for a man?

How about this new feminist lesson for the men out there from Keira: If you see a woman in trouble, leave her alone and let her save herself. Maybe if you see someone forcing themselves on a woman in an alley way, just let it go (Frozen anyone? Lol), and let her handle it. She'll be fine.

How about these feminist messages for young women from Keira: 1) Falling in love is wrong, especially with a man. 2) Be stubborn as hell and never ask for help, especially from someone with a penis. 3) Be an angry schrew for the rest of your life.

Ladies...grow up, be strong, be what you want to be...but be happy, fall in love, don't be afraid of being vulnerable, or asking for help if you need it, and for the love of god, try your best to not be a 3rd wave feminist like Keira Knightly, who rose to fame and made her meal ticket playing the classic "damsel in distress" Elizabeth Swann in the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise. Maybe she banned that movie from her children as well? Hypocrite.

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Keira must have had her woke alarm ring in her brain and shut the movie off before getting to the ending of it. Ariel was the first Disney princess who ever laid a hand on the villain personally instead of waiting to be rescued. She even saves Eric from being vaporized by the trident. If you want to encourage your daughters to become strong independent women this is the Disney movie you should show to them. It actually broke the formula of the helpless princess syndrome Disney had been doing for decades.

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Old but still important news.

Wow, she's really bonkered, eh?

The next generation of women are going to be hateful, lonely, angry, misandric lesbians blaming men up until their death bed for all their life's ills.

Yuck.

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Ladies...grow up, be strong, be what you want to be...but be happy, fall in love


SO...FIND A MAN?...I WAS ABOUT TO AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT KEIRA...BUT AFTER REREADING YOUR POST...IM STARTING TO THINK MAYBE KEIRA IS ONTO SOMETHING...ENTERTAINMENT SELLING YOUNG GIRLS ON THERE LIFE GOALS BEING FINDING AND KEEPING A MAN?....BEING SMILING,LOVING,WEAK AND IN NEED OF HELP...YOU JUST SOLD ME ON THE OTHER SIDE.

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LIFE GOALS BEING FINDING AND KEEPING A MAN?....BEING SMILING,LOVING,WEAK AND IN NEED OF HELP...YOU JUST SOLD ME ON THE OTHER SIDE.


I did not even come close to saying any of that. Not even a little bit. YOU sold yourself on it, because that must be how you see being in a loving relationship with someone.

Women should be able to fall in love and not think that it makes them “weak”, the way you and people like Keira are presenting it. It’s a wonderful part of life. There is nothing wrong with being vulnerable sometimes either. Some of you people on here are so backwards in the way your minds interpret everything, no wonder society is going in the shitter.

And personally, if you are on the “other side”, I know for certain that I said the right thing. Feel free to ban classic Disney movies in your house like Keira. Yeah, movies like Cinderella and The Little Mermaid are the real problem out there for young girls, simply because they want to fall in love. 🙄 Piss off with that garbage.

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YOURE REAL GOOD AT TYPING UP WHAT WOMEN SHOULD DO.

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You’re really good at spinning what someone is actually saying into complete horseshit.

I’m not telling anyone what they should or shouldn’t do. I’m just saying it’s ok for them to fall in love with someone. Still trying to see where that’s a bad thing? 🤔

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YOURE EQUATING THEIR HAPPINESS TO FINDING LOVE.


"Ladies...grow up, be strong, be what you want to be...but be happy, fall in love"

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Finding love is a big part of a lot of people’s happiness in life. It seems like bitter people like yourself think finding love is sexist or something. I can’t really pinpoint why finding someone special is a bad thing to you, but with each message this conversation gets more pointless.

Pick every word of what I wrote apart and twist it however you’d like. I really don’t care. I stand by every single word. Banning Cinderella and The Little Mermaid from your daughters is laughable and pathetic.

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LMAO...THE WHOLE FIRST PARAGRAPH IS BULLSHIT...LOVE IS GREAT...THOSE TWO FILMS THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT FOCUS ON LOVE AS A "HAPPILY EVER AFTER" FINISH FOR THOSE HEROINES...MY DAUGHTER HAS SEEN BOTH FILMS...I ENJOY BOTH FILMS...I DO HOWEVER SEE KEIRA'S POINT AND WHILE I DON'T ENTIRELY AGREE,I DO SOMEWHAT....THE BOTTOMLINE IS," finding someone special" IS AMAZING...BUT IT SHOULDNT BE YOUNG GIRLS GOAL FOR THEIR LIVES.

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THE BOTTOMLINE IS," finding someone special" IS AMAZING...BUT IT SHOULDNT BE YOUNG GIRLS GOAL FOR THEIR LIVES.


Who are you to tell anyone what their goals should be in life? Shouldn’t that be their choice? I do love how you isolate this specific topic out of everything I wrote. It’s pretty funny. Ladies...grow up, be strong, be what you want to be...BUT, be happy, fall in love.

Apparently all you heard was “telling little girls that’s it’s ok to fall in love when you grow up is evil and sexist.”

I’m curious, would you say the same things to young boys who say they want to grow up, fall in love, and have a family of their own some day? Would you ban any movies from young boys where the lead actor trying to fall in love is the main plot line of the story?

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I’m curious, would you say the same things to young boys who say they want to grow up, fall in love, and have a family of their own some day?


NO CHILDREN SPOKE...YOU DID....I REPLIED TO YOU,NOT CHILDREN....AND YES,I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT BOYS.

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Ignore that troll, he is not here to fight a fair fight.

I agree with your OP and you phrased it correctly. Forget that troll.

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I LOVE YOU TOO.

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This is the second time in mere minutes that I see you calling someone else a troll. Seems like you do that frequently. Maybe you're the troll.

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So having been sold on the other side, you now think Keira is right to ban her child from watching films like Cinderella and The Little Mermaid?

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KEIRA CAN MAKE ANY CHOICE ON WHAT HER CHILD WATCHES AND WHY SHE LIKES...THATS HER RIGHT AS A PARENT.

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You're speaking of your ability to control her behavior and about her legal rights. I didn't say anything about that.

I am inquiring about your personal opinion on her behavior and use of the right you mentioned. You've not been shy about airing your opinion in the past, especially when it comes to those who hold conservative viewpoints, so why stop now?

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I DID...I TOTALLY SEE HER VIEWPOINT...I THINK I AGREE WITH HER ON THIS TOO...I DO ENJOY THOSE FILMS...BUT THEY BOTH SHARE A...I DONT MANT TO CALL IT MESSAGE...BUT...A THROUGHLINE THAT A HANDSOME MAN AND MARRIAGE MEANS HAPPILY EVER AFTER...CINDERELLA DOESNT EVEN REALLY KNOW THAT DUDE...AND ARIEL ADVENTUROUS AND AN EXPLORER UNDER THE RULE OF HER FATHER...AND HER STORYLINE SEES HER GOING STRAIGHT FROM THAT TO MARRIAGE TO A HANDSOME PRETTY NEWLY MET MAN.

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I feel you, we have to tear down every vestige of traditional values and time-honored ways of like to make way for the new, woke future.

Might as well start with love, marriage and the traditional domestic arrangement.

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I DO NOT AGREE WITH THE FIRST SENTENCE.


AS FOR THE SECOND...I'M ALL FOR THAT...BUT IM NOT A SHE AND I KNOW PLENTY OF HE'S THAT DONT FIND LOVE OR MARRIAGE AND ARE PLENTY HAPPY AND DONT HEAR THE SAME CHATTER.

OBVIOUSLY I WOULD LOVE FOR MY DAUGHTER TO GET MARRIED,HAVE KIDS AND BE HAPPY,IF THATS WHAT MAKES HER HAPPY...MAYBE HER HAPPINESS IS SOMETHING ELSE.

NOT THAT IT MEAN ANYTHING BUT THOSE ARE TWO OF MY SISTER'S FAVORITE MOVIES ALONG WITH A LOT OF STUFF AIMED AT YOUNG GIRLS AND SHE HAS SQUANDERED MANY OPPUTUNITIES THAT SHE LATER REGRETTED BASED ON HAPPILY EVER AFTER.


I LOVE THOE MOVIES AND PLENTY OF OTHERS...MY DAUGHTER HAS SEEN THEM...BUT I 100% SEE WHAT KEIRA KNIGHTLEY IS SEEING AND DON'T FAULT HER CHOICE AT ALL.

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I won't fuck with you too much about it since you at least provided a reasonable response, so I'll just say I disagree.

Do Disney movies sometimes show an idealized, unrealistic portrait of love and romance? Sure. But that is the case with basically every romantic comedy, too. In fact, films as a whole are full of fantasy. They provide us with escapist entertainment. That's why most people watch them and cherish the medium.

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I AGREE ENTIRELY.

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But they also give people the illusion that they are finding out about the world and how human beings work ... that is now more than ever before media is used to socialize, or brainwash people.

That's why so many groups are demanding that studios change their casting and break up stereotypes, and then when they do it, people complain they are woke, because they are attached to those stereotypes.

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I have never seen The Little Mermaid or Cinderella for that matter although I am of course familiar with the story of the latter. I actually agree with Keira Knightley about not letting her daughter watch Cinderella but not because it reinforces the patriarchy. Rather because it gives little girls the very unhelpful idea that they are all little Princesses. Talk about a big fat entitlement message.


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THAT IS A GOOD POINT.🙂

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Thank you. I will add that it might also mislead little girls into believing that one day a Prince will come along and transform their lives from crap into gold. And that's not helpful either.

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When I was a child, in the 1960s and 1970s, it was fashionable for the local mothers to say that they refused, REFUSED, to buy their daughters Barbie Dolls! They seemed to think that if they bought the kids Barbies, then they'd grow up stupid, materialistic, and develop eating disorders.

Parents have always been like this, trying to impress and shade each other with silly ideas, and making totally ridiculous assumptions about what simple childhood activities will do to their precious little screaming monsters.

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they'd grow up stupid, materialistic, and develop eating disorders.



THOSE MOTHERS WERE RIGHT.🤔

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THOSE MOTHERS WERE RIGHT.🤔


So every girl who had Barbies grew up stupid, materialistic, and developed eating disorders?

You’ve got to be shitting me with that statement.

I grew up with a pretty girl who always used to play with Barbie dolls when we were little. Was always a princess (or a Cinderella-type for the sake of this post) for Halloween. The girliest girl around.

She grew up to be a lawyer, unbelievably successful, and is now married with a beautiful daughter of her own.

This whole discussion is laughable.

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NOT ALL PEOPLE ARE SO INDEPENDANT THINKING...A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE EASILY LED OR STEERED...SURE BARBIE MIGHT BE FINE FOR A LOT OF GIRLS...I CAN COMPLETELY SEE THAT DOLL TWEEKING SOME KID HEADS THOUGH....WHY OES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER WITH YOU...MOST THINGS IN LIFE ARE IN THE MIDDLE.

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MOST THINGS IN LIFE ARE IN THE MIDDLE.


I completely agree with this statement. That’s why things like Barbie, Cinderella, and The Little Mermaid aren’t the issue. “That doll”, that chunk of plastic, “tweeking” some kid’s head is now up to parental responsibility. When and if the child shows an issue, you give them the “you’re fine the way you are” speech or any other assurances that they need. You don’t ban Barbie.

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I THINK WE JUST FOUND COMMON GROUND...I AGREE...HOWEVER A LOT OF KIDS HAVE THOSE TOYS AND/OR MOVIES AND SHITTY AND/OR LAZY PARENTS AS WELL...WHICH IS WHAT I'M THINKING OF WHEN I POST ON THIS TOPIC....ALSO,I DONT THINK ANY FILMS OR TOYS SHOULD BE BANNED...IM JUST SAYING I CAN SEE THEIR POSSIBLE NEGATIVE EFFECTS,AND WHY A PARENT MIGHT MAKE THE CALL TO NOT INCLUDE THEM IN THEIR CHILD'S LIFE.

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I've always believed "All things in moderation", or as you put it, "most things in life are in the middle".

I see absolutely no harm in letting your kid have a couple of toys you don't like yourself, as long as they've got other toys and interests and maybe you take the trouble to discuss things like the evils of materialism and healthy body images with your kid every now and then. But if your kid won't play with anything but the stupid Barbie and won't watch anything but those horrible animated Barbie films, it's time to turn off the TV, and take the kid outside to develop other interests. (And to smear the Barbies with gravy and leave them by the dog's bowl.)

The thing is, the parents who go around bragging about what they forbid their kid aren't doing it because they genuinely fear that some toy or movie will make them lose control over the little monster, they're doing it to score holier-than-thou points off of other parents.

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FAIR ENOUGH.

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I was a tomboy and LOVED Barbie and everything Barbie as well! I had it all. Never in my youth did I ever think "I want to grow up to be stupid, materialistic and develop eating disorders". I grew up to be the total opposite of that and I credit my parents for that. 😊 We watched all the Disney films and loved them. I played all kinds of video games such as Mortal Combat, Resident Evil, Grand Theft Auto, etc.

As my daughter stated earlier, it really is about how the parents raise their kids and not what objects or material comes into their lives.

I TOTALLY agree with you about parents being lazy and shitty and that affecting their children combined with movies, toys, etc.

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And in the 80ies, when local mothers NOT refused to buy their daughters Barbie dolls anymore, they grew up stupid, materialistic, and developed eating disorders. So what?

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What it all comes down to is that it doesn't really matter what movies or shows your kids watch or what games they play or what music they listen to. It's all up to the parents to teach their kids the difference between fantasy and reality. The biggest influence in a child's life is their same sex parent. That's who they really learn from.

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"The biggest influence in a child's life is their same sex parent. That's who they really learn from."


SEXIST GARBAGE

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It's not meant to be sexist in any way, it's true. My mom is awesome and I grew up knowing I wanted to be just like her. It doesn't mean my dad had nothing to do with my upbringing or that he was a bad father. I got lucky with both of my parents but my mom always had more of an influence on me.

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🤔

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I'm just testing if I can post on this board.

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LOOKS LIKE YOU CAN.👍

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