What is Trump's legacy?
Did he do anything great that will be remembered fondly?
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Here’s a nice start courtesy Mikey.
*Lowest unemployment rate for black Americans in US history.
*Moved the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, something previous Presidents, including Pres. Obama, promised to do but did not.
*In the past month Pres. Trump has been nominated 3 (THREE) times for the Nobel Peace Prize.
*RECORD BREAKING GDP growth (just last week) of over 33%. The previous record almost 70 years ago was about half that number.
*Lowest unemployment rate in 50 years.
*Over 500,000 manufacturing jobs added, jobs the Obama/Biden administration said were gone forever (magic wand??)
*2.5 million Americans lifted out of poverty, including 1.5 million children.
*Lowest poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans
*Pres. Trump’s Operation Warp Speed will likely result in a vaccine for Covid 19 in record time.
Any questions.
Trump didn't do these things. His administration did.
It's been clear for years that Trump himself barely put any effort into actually being a President. Most of his time was spent golfing, or watching news about himself and then rage Tweeting for hours whenever he felt personally slighted, or attending rallies where he could preen in front of his crowds.
The shallow depth of his knowledge about politics and ignorance of how the world works was put on display every single time he opened his mouth.
Had the Republicans run with anyone other than Trump and did these things, yes, they might have been noteworthy and even grudgingly acknowledged by non-Republicans.
Instead the Republicans hung their hats on a repugnant excuse for a human being. All those achievements you list faded into the background as man-baby Trump and his raging narcissism took centre stage and consumed all the attention.
I don't think the electorate turned their back on Republicans. They turned their back on Trump... an important distinction.
Now they've got four years to look for a successor... a worthy successor. Someone who understands and can live up the standards of the office. Trump should stand as an example to both parties of the dangers of confusing celebrity with competence.
You can say his administration did those things, but they still came from him, didn't they? Even if he appointed people and said "do what you want," and they made the decisions that lead to those improvements, he still appointed them and gave them carte blanche. But of course we know it wasn't that simple.
To put it another way, if it's as simple as you make it sound, then why weren't any other presidents able to achieve any of that? No president comes up with the nuances of economic policy, and likely no president has done much more than give a general sense of direction to his cabinet and advisors, but clearly Trump AND his administration did something very, very right. Whether 1% or 100% came directly from Trump, it all came because of him, and that's what matters.
For all his failings as a human being and his poor communication skills, he had his finger on the pulse of the economy in a way no other president before him ever has. We were told flat out that what he did was impossible before he did it, and that one needed a magic wand to do what Trump did. That is no small feat.
"You can say his administration did those things, but they still came from him, didn't they?"
No. Trump was lifted to the White House by people smarter than him. His job was just to attend rallies, get the vote out, be the preening grinning con man.
The few ideas that Trump has ever expressed personally have turned out to be batshit crazy, perfectly illustrating his lack of critical thinking skills. It must have frustrated his staff to no end... trying to accomplish meaningful work while accommodating his infantile ego and low IQ.
Trump himself didn't have his finger on the pulse of anything. His thinkers did. Whenever he thought he was smarter than his people, the result was usually disaster. COVID is just the biggest and most recent manifestation of this.
Most of Trump's limited emotional and intellectual intelligence has always been devoted to all things Donald Trump.
The achievements you speak of weren't because of Trump... they were in spite of Trump. Imagine what could have been accomplished if he had actually acted like a President.
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What you say makes no sense. Who are these hidden geniuses that made all these unprecedented economic gains that benefited so many people? Why couldn't Obama hire them, or Bush, or any other president? Was Trump just lucky? Or was it not the case that his policies of standing up to China, exiting poor trade agreements, lowering taxes, and directly intervening to negotiate the return of jobs sent oversees is what caused all this?
I was incredibly skeptical of Trump when he was elected, but I am not going to let bias cloud my eyes. He achieved amazing things as president that no president in my lifetime has come close to achieving, and it's unlikely any future president will come close to duplicating his successes.
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The wealth gap, aka income inequality, has been increasing since the '70s, and the only time it grew smaller since was during Trump's administration. As for your nonsense about healthcare and covid, go tell it to someone dumb enough to listen to your drivel.
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This is the stupidest thing I have ever heard in my life. You're basically calling him an idiot but giving him credit for putting together a great cabinet that got things done.
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"Trump was lifted to the White House by people smarter than him."
There's a lot of that going around, NW. Biden was lifted to the White House by people smarter than him. Much smarter, in fact.
Classic TDS, I'm not American but you can't take away credit for anything good but then issue FULL responsibility for anything bad...lol.
shareGot rid of the heath care mandate fine
Dropped the moab
Very safe and quiet 4 years from Islamic terrorism
Under Obama is was frowned upon to be patriotic. American flags were offensive. Tried to undermine the power of Christmas.
Trump turned mentality around like the way it should be.
Do Democrats even use the America flags any more?
Made animal cruelty a felony and discredited the establishment media once and for all.
shareHe won an election despite the establishment and all its weapons used against him. He wasn't able to do it twice, but, considering the establishment focused its every breath for four years on removing him from office, it's not surprising.
BTW, I've never liked this guy. I think it's sad the one time a (somewhat) outsider broke through the system, it was this idiot. The real victims here are the working people of the United States. They put all their chips on a man who was too incompetent to properly run a casino...
He ran on a policy of orange is the new black.
He'll leave on a policy of stripes is the new solid.