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Gen Z voters want nothing to do with Republicans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWY9Uck4d7Q

Awful news for the GOP, EXCELLENT news for normal Americans!

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I hope they like being drafted.

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What makes you think they're poor? Only poor young people get drafted. I don't see rich young Gen Z'ers joining the US military willingly.

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If they're not poor now, they will be soon ( :

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(Almost) *All* Gen Zs are poor. That's why they don't vote Republican.

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Only poor young people get drafted


Yeah no that's simply more lies and misinformation from you, every male in the US has to sign up for Selective Service to be eligible to vote and signing up for Selective Service leaves you open to being drafted. Stop speaking about things you have zero understanding of.

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Hmm, this might explain the massive uptick in men transitioning into women lately.

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Never thought of that. Mind blown.

Well, if there's real equality, they can get drafted as well.

Trans Army. Has a ring to it. Somehow, I don't there will be any phobia from Russian or Chinese troops though.

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TDS

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Oh the man who sneered at dead Christian children knows what Gen Z voters want does he? Pakman is a cunt.

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AMJF weighing in with his daily DNC instructions.

Poor lemming.

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Don't you like me talking about Trump, Gd5150? I thought you wanted that sort of thing here?

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I like Trump and Trump will be your President.

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The "normal American"

Men are women
Women don't exist
Babies are not people
Killing babies is alright
It's OK to chop off kids limbs
Racism is OK when towards white people

That's your normal people right there

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Foetuses aren't babies. Foetuses aren't people.

Ask an average woman what she wants. Most dont give a damn about whether 'men' identify as women. They care about the right to control their own body, rather than have the government FORCE an unwanted pregnancy on them.

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You are very normal sir mam

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Wow. Big surprise. Next you'll tell us black people vote democrat. Of course young uninformed voters vote blue when movies, tv shows, music, sports, college professors etc. tell them to. Then they get older and get out of their group think and start to hear what the other side of the argument is and then.... vote red. The left doesn't want to censor the right just because it is an ATtaCk oN ouR DemOcraCy!!11!1 They want to censor it because if they don't, they lose voters.

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You mean as they get older they continue to act in their own self-interest, which, for people with a mortgage and savings, is to dump on people with *even less* than them.

Let's be honest. Most politics is about SELF-INTEREST, and *not* ideology. The ONLY people who can *afford* to be ideological are the super-rich, or complete dropouts, like me. When you're young and have little money, it's in one's interest to vote for parties that fund education, provide benefits, invest in public sector jobs, and claim to be trying to level the playing field so people without money/access have a better chance. When you're older, and more established, and have even a *bit* more cash to when you were young, one's interest is to protect one's assets (i.e. savings), focus on 'law and order' (i.e. property crime/protecting one's possessions from theft/vandalism), and ensuring what little one has is protected from 'immigrants' and 'upstart minorities' (because even if you're still poor in your later years, you're no longer going to benefit from the types of education/work programs that appeal to younger voters, and may even resent political parties that are offering the types of opportunities one missed out on earlier on in life).

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Young voters always claim to be 'liberals' and 'progressives', and then, like the Baby Boomer 'hippy' generation, they get old, they get married, they get mortgages, they have good jobs and savings, and they become selfish, right-wing conservatives.

The only 'good news', is that the Boomers have SO fucked up the housing market for subsequent generations, and we've now seen social mobility and even life spans reach their peak (which I never thought possible), and even decline, that perhaps Gen Z will continue to be so poor and deprived well into their forties and fifties that they'll choose to eshew the politics of greed, selfishness and protected interests.

Then again, history has taught us that there's ALWAYS some group that's *worse off* than you, to dump on. Not all Republicans are rich. Some are quite poor. But they're attracted to the GOP because it gives them an opportunity to protect their crumbs from people *even worse off* than them (like POC, immigrants and other minorities), a lesson I sadly suspect many Gen Z voters will learn as they get older, just like EVERY OTHER FUCKING GENERATION before them.

My 'apologies' for what you may call 'cynicism' and 'pessimism' (i.e. REALISM and FACT/EVIDENCE-BASED OBSERVATIONS).

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I'm a selfish right wing conservative and I look out for the smallest minority there is, it consists of one person and those closest to him, and you are reading a post by him. You are not my responsibility.

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Thank you for *proving* my point.

We may not agree politically, but at least we're on the same page when it comes to LOGIC, REASON and PERCEPTION, and that actually counts for a lot in my book.

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Why should someone with only crumbs NOT defend them from others?

And I'm not entirely sure we are on what you could call the same page just yet, while I have seen you give some fair and balanced takes (credit where due) I've also seen some things that raise question marks.

I have a great litmus test on whether we are on the same page when it comes to logic, reason and perception -

What is a woman?

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I doubt you're going to agree with whatever answer I give to that question, but, suffice to say, I think it's a more nuanced issue than I suspect you believe.

But when it comes to cause-and-effect, I think we're both driven by logic, and I suspect that even your stance on trans issues is underpinned by *your* own personal perspective, rather than an insincere and intellectually dishonest take.

But, remember, I said that I was one of the *few* idealogues whose politics aren't defined so much by circumstance, but by ideology. Few other people think and behave this way, apart from the super-rich (who can afford to be 'high-minded') and a few drop-outs like me who've always prized ideology and principle, often to our own cost, over personal gain/self-interest.

However, LOGIC and REASON dictates that MOST people are driven by material self-interest, and that is what thus dictates what political allegiances we subscribe to.

Anyone who is rich/materially successful, or still aspires to such status, either acts in their personal interest (in order to become rich/successful), or is SO rich and privileged, they can afford to be idealogues without it hurting their bank balances (for instance, some people like Richard Branson, Bill Gates and Warren Buffet *only* start giving a damn about charitable endeavours/philanthropy *after* they've become multi-millionaires; but what did they have to do to get there...?)

Anyway, I'm not judging you here. On the contrary, I'm suggesting that when you say "Why should someoe with only crumbs NOT defend them from others?" you're thinking logically and rationally. Bear in mind, these are apolitical observations, on my part, rather than partisan judgements. I have my own (progressive) allegiances, but they arguably matter less than my objective analysis of reality and the truth regarding human nature.

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If we are not on the same page over the definition of "woman" then I have doubts over everything else you claim. This is the unfortunate reality of modern political discourse. I will state my position on it then you can state whether you agree or disagree.

A woman is an adult human female. A man is an adult human male. Intersex people exist that are 0.018% of the population that by definition fall outside of the category of male or female and are outliers, those people choose to try and live as a man or a woman and are still human beings who deserve all rights that humans deserve, but by very definition are neither man or woman as traditionally defined. Although as I said they try to live as what they feel the dominant sex/gender is and have infinitely more acceptance from people in that regard than a man who puts on makeup and a dress and calls themselves a female. Intersex people born with both male and female reproductive organs also did not simply have surgery that alters their body to appear a certain way, they were born like that.

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Trans people suffer from dysphoria and believe they are the wrong sex. For this conversation I will use gender and sex interchangeably as until John Money coined the phrase "gender role" that's exactly how the terms were used. Trans people when they are of legal age can attempt to alter their body to look more like the sex/gender that they feel. They are entitled to do so and I will even call them by whatever their preferred name is, I have family and friends who legally changed their name and I have no issue with it. I won't say they are a real man/woman though when they were born as the opposite. Trans people are not the sex/gender they try to appear as and have zero right to force real men or women to capitulate to their delusion and treat them as if they are the same. They have zero right to enter the spaces of the opposite sex based on how they feel. Trans people are human and deserve all the rights that humans deserve, but they do not deserve extra rights or privileges such as being able to go into a woman's space when you were born male.

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No offence, but why are you so obsessed with trans people?

This is a Donald Trump board.

It seems the political right has the same degree of obsession with trans people that the 'TDS' left does with Trump.

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No offense but asking me that is simply deflecting and we both know why you did it. You dodged the question twice even when I gave you the option of using a singe word to answer it. And I already told you why I ask the question -

If we are not on the same page over the definition of "woman" then I have doubts over everything else you claim. This is the unfortunate reality of modern political discourse


Think of it as an ideological litmus test, if you cannot answer then you get added to the block list as all of your subsequent opinions are tainted junk.

So what is your answer?

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Welcome to the block list faggot.

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Shame...

He seems such a nice, civilised, measured individual... 🙄

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Why is this on moviechat? Are you not allowed to play with the other slow kids any more (banned from twatter)?

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