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Way to go lefties, you made this guy a martyr.


Hope you're proud of yourselves. All you had to do was shut-up and now he's the 2nd biggest hero (after Trump) of the right-wing party.

Give yourselves a pat on the back. You just had to stick your neck out daily and demand this case get attention. And as a result, it did take off and sail along with no end in sight.

Now we get to look at his face every day on moviechat. I commend you on a job well done.

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If that is true, then it says much more about the "right-wing party" than anyone else.

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Ranb,

I have to disagree, right leaning folks at least looked at the video and saw it was most likely a case of self-defense and were willing to ignore it at that time. The left went crazy and came up with all kinds of lies about this case.


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Ranb: what does it say about your side when your biggest idols are the holy martyr saint of fentanyl and a semi-retarded girl who didnt even finish highschool?

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What do you mean, my side? I vote based on the issues, I am not a party line voter. I think people who vote the GOP or Dem party line are fools.

Why do you think I care anything about what Floyd or Thunberg say?

Do you have any sort of rational explanation for your stupid claim about me?

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You are a "issue based voter" and you think liberal is the way to go right now?

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Where did I say liberal was the way to go? Instead of making up what position I am taking so you can win an argument, how about you debate honestly?

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In every post you make?

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No. What are you talking about? Is the only way to convince people on this forum that I'm not a liberal or a Biden supporter, is to kiss Trump's ass? I'm not willing to go that low.

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"your side"

yet another simple minded moron totally obsessed with politics that he can't even understand.

I wish all you lefties and righties would just die off so the rest of us can go back to leading normal lives.

both of "your sides" are a cancer on society

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Lol, did you forget which sock-account you were using, Ranb? Way to go m0r0n. 🤣

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Yeah, it says we care about facts and all you do is lie.

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Where did I lie?

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Coming in late but... Obviously you are a disciple of the "left-wing party". You know, the same one that made George Floyd a gentle giant martyr? Pretty much says all you need to know about liberals.
In case you don't know about sweet GF... "George Floyd was arrested and charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon in August 2007. According to investigators, he had entered an apartment by impersonating a water department worker and barging in with five other men. He then held a pistol to a woman’s pregnant stomach and searched for items to steal. Floyd pleaded guilty in 2009 and was sentenced to five years in prison". Want more? There is plenty.

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How am I obviously a "disciple of the "left-wing party"?

I am aware of Floyd's criminal past; as far as I know, nearly everyone is. I'm not sure what this has to do with Rittenhouse. Can you explain?

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He went down there with a gun with the intention to shoot people. No one asked him to be there.

BTW, a martyr is someone who dies for a cause.

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***He went down there with a gun with the intention to shoot people.***

Horseshit assumption. No evidence supports this claim. In fact, if this was true, he could've shot people long before he came across the ones that attacked him.

Plus, a lot of people had guns that night, including one of the guys he shot. I bet you didn't even know this. And many were open carry too like Rittenhouse. I bet you didn't know this either...

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he got attacked by a gay child molester, a woman beater, and some other criminal. he went there to protect property but instead did something more important by protected the safety of children and women those predators would hurt in the future. child molesters should be executed by the government anyways! Kyle took out the trash and made this world a better place!!

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Initially, a martyr meant a person was a witness, though it has come to mean one who either dies for a cause, or one who has voluntarily placed them in a position of harm for a cause. The last meaning is the one that applies to Rittenhouse, who clearly did not go with a gun with any intent to shoot anyone. The vast amounts of video footage from the night demonstrate this, as he fled rather than shoot, and only shot at the last possible moment in order to save his own life. Also worth noting, he had been asked by the owner of the business he was protecting to be there to protect it.

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Your opinion would not seem to be congruent with reality.

In reality, he had every legal right to be there. He traveled 20mins to the town where his father lived. Got the rifle from a friend and used it to guard a car dealership from arsonists. Because was indeed asked to. In fact, he only shot people in self defense after being attacked. It was textbook perfect.

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What you and millions of idiots like you fail to understand is that YOU and your dumbass "libtard vs trumptard" philosophy is the problem.

Only such idiots boil everything down into left vs right, and feel the need to obsessively and aggressively side with one OR the other.

You simpletons are ruining the world and those of us who are squished in the middle are sick to fucking death of both of sets of you simple minded morons.

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Politics can get messy but that's life I suppose. The fact is, people will never agree on everything. I guess I can see legitimate reasons to favor one side over the other. But yes, the extreme opinions of "libs" and "cons" can get annoying as fuck.

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What disengaged dumbasses like you fail to realize is that this is not a team sport. I'm not a conservative because of the color of my jersey. I'm a conservative based on my beliefs, which align 99.99% with right wing ideology. As the left moves further and further left, becomes more and more radicalized and insane, the further they move from compromise with people like me. In reality, you really don't give a shit either way and are simply berating people who take a stand on one side or the other. It is because of disengaged idiots like you that things are so polarized.

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disengaged? is that a new buzzword that you idiots apply to normal people, to reinforce your self-image of a person "taking a stand"? when in actual fact you're just yet another small minded idiot who only has enough brainpower to see 2 sides and wants to force everyone else to pick one or the other.

nice try though

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You think disengaged is a buzzword? And you think I'm the idiot???

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the way you use it? yes, absolutely

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No dummy, it's just a word. In this context, it means that you are not engaged in the political process.

disengage
verb
dis·​en·​gage ˌdis-in-ˈgāj
disengaged; disengaging; disengages
Synonyms of disengage
transitive verb

: to release from something that engages or involves
intransitive verb

: to release or detach oneself : WITHDRAW

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Man you centrists are so cool, please teach me how to not care about anything or have any solid views of my own about anything! I love being spineless too!

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unfortunately in this age you are either "centrist" (and that can even mean individuals like Maher which are on the political spectrum but keep some common sense) or a lunatic.

And that's a fact, the divide is to wide so when the left comes up with some insane thing the right comes up with the opposite extreme thing and none wants to bulge to a common sense situation.

Abortion is a good example: leftists: the right of women to abort up to the last second. The right: conception starts when you have sex so no abortion, never.

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Abortion is a good example: leftists: the right of women to abort up to the last second. The right: conception starts when you have sex so no abortion, never.


This is a caricature of people's actual positions, the right and left are not monoliths that march in ideological lockstep over everything. There are certainly right wing people who accept there are situations where abortion is acceptable and even necessary, and there are certainly left wing people who are vehemently againt late term abortion. But if you judge by only the extremes of each political aisle then yes it may appear as you describe.

The main issue I see if both sides are able to view a situation like the Kenosha incident and come to 2 wildly differing conclusions. The right knew instantly it was a self defense situation, there was video footage of everything so it was blatantly obvious. But then in come the left wing talking heads like TYT or slimy Sam Seder and they spread misinformation throughout their left wing audience -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY1eoY_MMco

who then disseminate the misinformation and repeating irrelevant bullshit throughout their social circles. And you end up with examples like this, years later after all of the evidence is readily available, happy to state they know nothing about the facts of the situation but still having zero issue calling Kyle a hateful twisted criminal -

https://moviechat.org/nm11848475/Kyle-Rittenhouse/649b0c0fb37efb61da18de6f/Why-put-criminals-on-an-entertainment-site

If centrists are happy to side with people who spread lies so easily I don't want them on my political side as they're fucking braindead idiots.

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"If centrists are happy to side with people who spread lies so easily I don't want them on my political side as they're fucking braindead idiots."

That's the idea: centrists would not do that. If they do they are not really ... centrists.

That's the main point: a centrist would use logic, common sense, critical thinking and searching for information when looking at a problem, not ideology. If ideology is involved (and acceptance of missinformation) then that person is not really a centrist.

At least by my definition a centrist would question any information, regardless of where is it coming, and do his research.

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That's the idea: centrists would not do that. If they do they are not really ... centrists.


It sounds a bit like the No True Scotsman fallacy unfortunately. What else can you call people who self describe that way?
Traditionally my political leanings would have been described as centrist. I called myself a classical liberal and lay somewhere centre left. Regrettably I voted for Tony Blair in the 90s. But somewhere around the 2010s and onwards the Overton window has shifted so far to the left that I am now considered far right for espousing mostly the same views I did before.

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"What else can you call people who self describe that way?"

I don't give a shit what people self describe as ... a male doesn't become a female because he self describes as such.

People are idiots.

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lol yeah I can't really argue against that!

It just feels like those lines in the sand are drawn up and there's no turning away from it now. The world is too divided, I sense bad shit in the future.

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Are you normal though?

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How about you learn to read and understand first??

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martyrs are dead

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Yeah, we really should make him a martyr.

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LOL!

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I’m glad this blew up in the leftist cult’s faces. This is a very clear-cut case of self-defense and more people are waking up.

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This is what happens when all you care about is the narrative. Rittenhouse was only prosecuted because every single issue is politicized by democrats. The truth no longer matters. In any other context, the facts would've been examined and he would have never been charged with a crime. We are here because of leftist lies and their uncanny ability to twist the truth to fit the narrative.

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Also because Black Lives Matter was involved. It’s a terrorist organization, but let’s not muddy the waters with facts.

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Not them pesky facts again!

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I’m right wing and i don’t consider this kid a hero.

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Do you consider him a villain though?

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I consider him a punk little kid…

Because that is what he is.

I don’t have enough facts of the case or know much about what went on to make an educated opinion.

However,
From what little I’ve heard/read he was a kid who shot and killed 2 people during a protest and claimed he was protecting property.

Considering the property wasn’t his and destruction of property doesn’t carry a death sentence he shouldn’t have used deadly force and should have been convicted of something. If not murder/manslaughter at the very least reckless endangerment.

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I consider him a punk little kid…

Because that is what he is.

I don’t have enough facts of the case or know much about what went on to make an educated opinion.


Yet that same lack of information is enough to state he's a punk little kid who is not a hero? How do you know if as you said you don't have enough facts to make an educated opinion? Sounds retarded.

However,
From what little I’ve heard/read he was a kid who shot and killed 2 people during a protest and claimed he was protecting property


Did you also read that those people were attacking him at the time and 100% of people who did not attack Kyle that night survived?
Should he have let those people attack him and take his firearm?

Considering the property wasn’t his and destruction of property doesn’t carry a death sentence he shouldn’t have used deadly force and should have been convicted of something


Considering that's not why he shot those people your statement is pants on head retarded. He shot them because they were attacking him physically at the time. Sounds like you're just an ignorant retard willing to shittalk someone about something they know fuck all about.

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Yes the lack of information of his case is enough for me to not consider some kid whom I don’t know a hero.
I don’t admire or idealize him. Nor do I consider his unnecessarily putting himself in harms way on purpose then using deadly force to protect himself courageous.

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You seem like a very angry little man.

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If your idea of protesting is violence and arson, maybe don't attack someone carrying a rifle for trying to put your fire out. You'll live longer.

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Words to not die by!

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