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Overrated director, riding black activism wave


... and I don’t blame him. I blame the media & entertainment industry for hyping the crap out of him as “the new Hitchcock”.

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Amen! And he's a racist.

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Sigh... no, he isn’t a racist.

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Sigh... yes, he is a racist. He discriminates against actors because of the color of their skin. That is the very
definition of racism.


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We are all glad - and you should be too - you aren't Noah Webster.

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Well, he did say that he would not cast whites as his leads. Just imagine if a white person said that.

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The SJW's would go berserk, and shit themselves!

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Exactly.

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And I would enjoy that immensely!!

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The interesting thing is that the vast majority of American directors have been white guys, and most of them never felt the need to say, "I'm not gonna cast a person of color as the lead in my movies." Of course, they were never expected to cast people of color as leads in their movies. They didn't want to do it, and nobody asked them to do it. So they never had to say whether or not they would do it.

But a person of color who wants to make movies about people of color, and so decides to cast people of color as the leads in those movies . . . that person is racist?

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Yep. He's a racist.

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“I don’t see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie"

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Culture/jordan-peele-wont-cast-white-male-lead-ive/story?id=61989080

Lovely...

What a wonderful human being..

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Why would he cast a white dude as the lead of his movie when the movies he writes are written from the perspective of being black in America?

That’s like someone saying they aren’t going to hire male leads when their movies are about women, told from a woman’s perspective. I know you want to feel offended but you are trying too hard.

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So let's reverse that....

"I don't see myself casting a black dude as the lead in my movie."

...Said by a prominent niche white director making movies about white identity aimed at white people.

That's totally fine, yes?

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Why are you acting like white people and black people and women for that matter are all coming from the same place? You KNOW why there is a different standard so why pretend you don't get it? It makes you look silly.

It's just a fact of life that people who have a history of oppressing any group cannot be compared equally to the oppressed.

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You KNOW why there is a different standard so why pretend you don't get it?



So current day racism is okay to balance out past crimes, is this what you're saying?

It's just a fact of life that people who have a history of oppressing any group cannot be compared equally to the oppressed.


Ah, so here you are actually justifying that racism is fine so long as it's justified through the lens that some nebulous group of people completely unrelated to the filmmakers have been oppressed, and therefore it gives carte blanche for Jordan Peele to enact race-based discrimination on this facet, correct?

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Okay I was wrong, you aren’t pretending, you DON’T get it. I’m sorry, I shouldn’t have assumed. Let me try to think of a way to explain this because you aren’t even on the same planet of the concept. I am not the best at explaining emotional intelligence. I’m not slamming you, I’m honestly not good at it because I hate explaining shit lol.

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I am not the best at explaining emotional intelligence.


Then it's not something that's either practical or applicable to current day standards, which should tell you a A LOT about adhering to a concept that is about as useful as blinders at the bottom of the sea.

I’m not slamming you, I’m honestly not good at it because I hate explaining shit lol.


No, it just means you believe in something that has no basis in a utilitarian sense, and therefore you believe something because you've been brainwashed to believe it not because it actually makes sense.

Racism is racism no matter how you cut the custard. You're trying to justify why it's okay in one case but not the other, but the reason you're having difficulty is because it doesn't hold up under the basic scrutiny of a civil society that's NOT supposed to be enacting racism regardless of race.

Do you get it now?

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You don't think that your EQ is important or applicable in every day life? That's not something I can explain to you.

Nah, I just hate explaining shit to people that just want to be 'right' and don't have any interest in another person's point of view. It's pointless and against my beliefs.

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You don't think that your EQ is important or applicable in every day life? That's not something I can explain to you.


I'm sorry, but "Emotional Intelligence" is a Left-wing term invented to dupe silly people into thinking they can be "racists" or "bigots" based on the ever-shifting sands of the Left's ideological hegemony.

Nah, I just hate explaining shit to people that just want to be 'right' and don't have any interest in another person's point of view. It's pointless and against my beliefs.


It's not that I have no interest in another person's point of view, I just have a near zero-tolerance approach to bullcrap invented by Cultural Marxists.

When you get older you'll understand.

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I like how you ignored their questions and instead of answering, went on some bullshit rant of mental gymnastics to justify Peele's overt racism.

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Oh poor baby, how dare someone write about their own culture and not include you!

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The dig at the end about him not being creative is the textbook example of sour grapes.

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dont bother. black people and defenders of the blackies will always try to weasel their way out of their own words. They have no dignity or shame or any normal morals that you and I have. They dont stand by anything they say or do and just point fingers. Constant scapegoating, assuming no responsibility, and creating false flags to try to make their hollow empty points. It's just a merry-go-round of retardedness that goes nowhere. Like a divisive Peele movie, it just drags us all down to their level, which is rooted in shit, like their skin and their smell.

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Darkies?

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yeah, you heard me.

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His new Twilight Zone was garbage, "US" completely lame, Get Out ripped off the Skeleton Key. Should have stuck to comedy

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Definitely a one hit wonder outside of comedy.

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I don’t think he’s a particularly good director and I didn’t really enjoy either Get Out or Us.

I have no opinion on his decision to only cast black lead actors in his films, any more than I have about the endless list of white directors who have never cast black people as leads. The only difference to me is that he is explicitly saying it, which I suppose earns him points for honesty.

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Fuck this racist anti white motherfucker..I wouldn't give this piece of shit a nickel. They should make him shine shoes and dance for white people..

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He's not racist or anti-white. Sounds like you might be the racist one...

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I do find it odd how much it feels like it's been forced on us to look at him as if he's the next Hitchcock, or Wes Craven, or even the next M. Night Shyamalan. It's as if people think if they pretend this is true enough it'll magically make it true (a sorta fake it till you make it kinda thing).

I finished Get Out, after weeks of Blair Witch/The Sixth Sense-level hype thinking, "this was what everyone has been raving over?" I mean, I don't know what I was expecting. But it was certainly something better than what I got. More unique, at least. An original twist, perhaps? Something very out of the box, like with what they did with Cabin in the Woods? This, however, felt more akin to an especially long (and not especially good) Tales from the Crypt episode. I'd have probably forgotten all about its existence if it wasn't brought up so much in the following years.

When Get Out came out, I wasn't really thinking much about activism or BLM or anything like that (it just wasn't a topic on my radar at the time) so that never occurred to me previously. But you may be onto something there. It would certainly make sense out of how much attention he and his mediocre films get. Perhaps people just really want more "legendary" black filmmakers or something so they're just prematurely taking what they can get and running with it? Because I certainly can't understand his praise otherwise (that being said, I'm equally baffled by people who act like The Departed is Scorsese's best movie, so maybe I'm just out of touch lol).

I've always been a film buff, though, and have seen some overly-hyped films/filmmakers in my time. So that's not a particularly new thing at all. But at least when I didn't agree with the hype I could at least understand how others may be on board with it. With this guy, though, it just never added up. Then he's given the Twilight Zone (horrendous) and still, with each new mediocre movie, I'm being force-fed the idea that he's brilliant.

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It's not dissimilar from the seven Academy Award nominations 'Black Panther' received and the people hailing Ryan Coogler as the next Steven Spielberg.

'Get Out' and 'Black Panther' were both groundbreaking in terms of representation, but somehow this became conflated with artistry by lazy film critics chasing clicks and Hollywood studios fishing for award kudos.

FYI, I also can't understand the praise for 'The Departed', particularly when you place that film next to 'Infernal Affairs'. Then again, some people like 'Gangs of New York'...

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You misspelled racism

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