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Zelensky Admits: “Ukraine War Is Good For Business!”


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtEglfF8030

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ITS INSANE GOOD FOR ASHKENAZI BIZ!

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Instead of posting links to videos that no one will click on, why don't you (accurately) paraphrase the alleged quote and link at the end?

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Zelenskyy is admitting what we all know - this war in Ukraine is not about benefiting the Ukrainian people, it's about American arms dealers and corporations making money. Zelensky himself and his corrupt oligarchs are also growing rich as well.

Some day the American people will wake up and stop sending trillions of dollars and the blood of their sons and daughters over to fight these unnecessary wars. From Vietnam to Afghanistan to Iraq to Ukraine - it ever ends.

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Even the most bizarre conspiracy theories need a basis in some sort of minimalist logic. To suggest that Zelensky would subject Ukranians to that kind of rape, destruction, and murder at the hands of Russian Nazis for money is too bizarre to qualify.

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Trumpists are not friends with logic and common sense. They are too stupid for that. They can only repeat what their nazi russian lords are ordering them to. They dont actually think what they are saying about.

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Where's the conspiracy theory? Why did the U.S. and the South Vietnamese subject the Vietnamese people to rape, destruction and murder? Why did George W Bush subject the Iraqis to rape, destruction and murder? Shall we talk about the Afghans and what both the Russians and Americans did to that country?

If you don't see a common thread here in all these wars for the past 70 years, you're either incredibly stupid or work for an arms manufacturer.

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Let me guess: flat earther as well...

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Again, answer the questions:

Where's the conspiracy theory? Why did the U.S. and the South Vietnamese subject the Vietnamese people to rape, destruction and murder? Why did George W Bush subject the Iraqis to rape, destruction and murder? Shall we talk about the Afghans and what both the Russians and Americans did to that country?

Just as I expected. You have nothing but lame insults. 🤣

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I know arguing with the paranoid is a lesson in futility, but I'll answer just one more of your posts against my better judgement. I won't keep tacking on and polluting this board. You of course will say that I won't respond because I have no answers...

But anyway -

Why did the U.S. and the South Vietnamese subject the Vietnamese people to rape, destruction and murder?


Trying to save Vietnam from the rape, destruction, and murder by the Communists for decades. That they failed and the commie hoards overran Vietnam and foisted many years of misery on the people doesn't change anything. The misery that Vietnam suffered at the hands of Communists is on par to what happened to N. Korea. I'm not surprised you didn't mention Korea because the U.N. managed to save half of that country at least.

Or Germany. The U.N. managed to save half that country for decades until the unbearable yoke of communism collapsed. Finally and mercifully.

Why did George W Bush subject the Iraqis to rape, destruction and murder?


To rid Iran of it's weapons of mass destruction after Saddam stopped letting U.N. inspectors in. That Iran did get rid of the weapons beforehand but refused to let the U.N. see that they did comply is one of the most strange cases of paranoid ruler syndrome. But you should understand that even if the rest of us don't. It wasn't about money, it was about bad intel - the same intel that the rest of the world including countries who did not want Iran attacked. Even they were surprise when no WMDs were found. You believe it was all about money but you don't believe they would have planted even some chemical weapons to avoid the embarrassment of being wrong??

It had nothing to do with money. That's too easy and too intellectually lazy.

Now, I know the truth will mean nothing to people who can't come up with a reasonable argument so they fall back on things that can't be proven: "it was to make money", "it was racism", ...

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Hilarious how you supporters of never ending U.S. interference in every corner of the globe try to shut down anyone who disagrees with you as a troll.

We have NATO for a reason. And the U.S. and NATO nations have kept Ukraine out because before U.S. meddling and the 2014 coup, we knew that Ukraine and Russia's relations were a post-Soviet issue. Again, we cannot police the world.

So what was gained by our invasion of Vietnam? We lost. And yet 40 years later our President stayed at a luxury hotel in Hanoi. What was accomplished in Vietnam?

To rid Iran of it's weapons of mass destruction after Saddam stopped letting U.N inspectors in.


I think you mean Iraq. But unlike you I won't make hysterical allegations that you're trolling because you conflated Iraq with Iran.

We all know that was a canard driven by hysteria over the 9/11 attacks. Perhaps Saddam Hussein's biggest crime was using poison gas on the Kurds. But no one now argues that was a just cause for a U.S. invasion. Consensus is that the Iraq War was a mistake. Consensus in 20 years will be that U.S. meddling in Ukraine was a mistake. We got kicked out of Afghanistan recently. Another one of your Neo-Con wars which accomplished nothing for the U.S.

You do realize that Russia is not a Communist state anymore, right? You want to revive the Cold War and that's all Biden is doing in Ukraine. The real threat is China. Defend NATO nations. Defend Taiwan. Leave Ukraine aka "Little Russia" to Big Russia.

Money drives everything.

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8281 posts, and you are either dumb or have other interests ....
i think u're just dumb

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I may be dumb, but at least I am able to express an opinion and/or cite authoritative sources to make a point instead of just summarily dismissing someone as dumb.

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Well, let's take your answers to some points from up above:
Why did the U.S. and the South Vietnamese subject the Vietnamese people to rape, destruction and murder? (we can condense this in : why did US start war with Vietnam)
YOU: Trying to save Vietnam from the rape, destruction, and murder by the Communists for decades.
Why did George W Bush subject the Iraqis to rape, destruction and murder?(we can condense this in : why did US start war with Iraq . Truthfully, Saddam was actually begging them at some point to come inspect, but decision had already been made)
YOU: To rid Iran of it's weapons of mass destruction after Saddam stopped letting U.N. inspectors in.
also YOU: It had nothing to do with money. That's too easy and too intellectually lazy.

So, you generally think that these wars were started because of pretexts, instead of the true reasons. A person who believes a pretext instead of wondering the true reason is dumb.

So, yes, I believe you are dumb. But maybe you have other reasons to post this, like disinformation. In this case, you are also dumb, reasonably smart people would post "smarter" misinformation. Or maybe you are just a bot and the programmer that made you was dumb.

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That's it? All you really accomplished was to prove my points. All you said was that you disagree with me but offered no opinion besides "you're wrong", or "I don't agree with you therefore you're dumb".

There is always a pretext for everything, but you keep alluding to a "true reason" yet didn't provide it, as if it's so obvious that it would naturally occur to anyone who isn't dumb, or do you mean that everything is about money? I hope there's more to your argument than that. Wars cost money and men, they don't make money. If you don't think any U.S. president wouldn't love to take the defense budget off the books you're not thinking this through.

Well, indulge me and help relieve my burden of ignorance. Why do you think the U.S. fought a bloody war in Vietnam?

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Simple : People who had economic interests in Asia feared communist takeover of Vietnam. US government also had interests to stop communism. They saw what happened with Korea and they wanted to prevent the same scenario. If left unchecked, it would spread to other countries.
Communism = state controlled resources = cannot takeover resources = cannot profit.
So people convinced USA government to send aid, then troops. US government convinced citizens ... etc.

This reason : "Trying to save Vietnam from the rape, destruction, and murder by the Communists for decades." - dumb

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Totally lost on you is that Communism has raped, killed, and tortured more humans than anyone in history.

The U.S. tried isolationism in the 1930s, and the cancer of Nazism spread because it was left unchecked. The generation that fought Nazism in the 1940s were the generation that decided to fight the same thing all over again with mixed results.

But yeah, the big bad U.S. was trying to take over Vietnam's and Korea's "resources"..

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There is no big bad US. There is big and powerful US army that gets used by big bad groups of interests the way they see fit. And big dumb us population manipulated by media controlled by same groups of interests.

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That's kind of a naive point of view. People commit atrocious acts for money every day.

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LOL. You are delusional.

Did you thought about moving to russia? You will be happy there.

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Cold hard facts don't mean much to you, do they?

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LOL. Cold hard facts. LOL.

Your local crazy conspiracy theorists are not "facts".

You are brainwashed by nazi russian propaganda and then you try to brainwash other people too. All you know about russian war against Ukraine have been carefull put into your head by those republican pro-russian bloggers and crazy conspiracy theorists who just hate USA. They take small pieces of information that fits their agenda and then put it into you without explaining further picture. And often they just straight out lie. Or tell half-truth and then lie the rest. This is how nazi russian propaganda works.

And your republican bloggers and Elon The Idiot take their information straight from russian sites then repeat it to their viewers. Do you know that people in nazi russia believe that people in Europe are starving to death, have no heating. electricity and burned all trees from parks to heat their homes? Because this is what their propaganda tells them every day. And they sit and believe it. Just like crazy trumpists believe their lies too.

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Ok I clicked on that video. knowing 100% that there will be another crazy obsessed delusional conspiracy theorist in there. And I was right as always :)

Dear trumpists - dont you have any legitimate sources on your nazi russian side? Why is it always crazy people who should be in psych ward? Is this your only allies?

Jimmy Dore is an American stand-up comedian, political commentator, conspiracy theorist, podcaster, and YouTube personality.

Controversies

In a July 2020 video, Dore erroneously said Joe Biden had once "hosted a black face affair with a bunch of rich white people", showing an altered clip that had been circulating on social media since January which had darkened the face of black singer Jerome Powell. The video received over 100,000 views in one day and has since been removed from YouTube.

In January 2021, Dore interviewed Zackary Clark, a member of the anti-government, far-right extremist Boogaloo movement.

Discussion of conspiracy theories

In May 2017, Dore discussed conspiracy theories on the murder of Seth Rich on his show. According to Salon, Dore continued to insist that there were "a lot of red flags" and there was "probably something more to this story" after the source of much of the conspiracy theory was discredited. In December 2020, an article in New York magazine said Dore's discernment was questionable, due in part to his "promotion of conspiracy theories implicating the Democratic National Committee (DNC) in Seth Rich's death".

In 2017, Dore argued that the chemical weapons attack on the opposition-held town of Khan Sheikhun was likely to have been a "false flag", orchestrated by groups opposed to Bashar al-Assad. The investigative journalism site Bellingcat reported that Dore received $2,500 from the Association for Investment in Popular Action Committees in 2017. The Association is responsible for the Serena Shim Award and is described by Bellingcat as a pro-Assad lobby group.

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In 2018, according to Stephen Shalom writing in New Politics, Dore cited an op-ed which quoted US Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis out of context as saying that he did not have evidence that the nerve agent sarin was used in Syria. Mattis, speaking in a press conference in February 2018, had been referring to recent reports when he said he did not have evidence of sarin use, adding that Assad's government had "been caught using" sarin during the Obama administration and "used it again during our administration".

During the COVID-19 pandemic, Dore pushed misleading information about the efficacy and safety of vaccines even though he had been vaccinated. He further claimed that the anti-parasitic drug ivermectin is effective against COVID-19, although there is no compelling medical evidence to support this.

Reception

Stephen Shalom, writing in New Politics, has called Dore "Islamophobic", "conspiracist" and an "apologist for Assad".

In 2018, an article published on CNNMoney described Dore's show as a "YouTube channel that peddles conspiracy theories, such as the idea that Syrian chemical weapons attacks are hoaxes"

In a 2020 opinion piece for Haaretz, Alexander Reid Ross described Dore as a "conspiracy theorist" and "Kremlin defender"

Sexual harassment allegation

In 2021, Ana Kasparian accused Dore of having sexually harassed her when they had worked together at The Young Turks, alleging that Dore had made numerous sexually inappropriate comments to her. Responding to this allegation, Dore said that Kasparian had dressed "unbelievably inappropriately for a newsroom" and that, after she had "bent over in front of [him]" and he saw her underwear, he had said "nice news skirt", which "humiliated her". Dore said he later gave Kasparian an apology note following the incident.

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The Ferengi in Star Trek said the same thing. In fact, it's in their Rules of Acquisition, which are the cardinal rules of how their society (which does everything for personal profit) works and functions.

Rule of Acquisition #34: "War is good for business."

Incidentally, Rule of Acquisition #35 says "Peace is good for business."

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Rules_of_Acquisition

Gotta love little space trolls that exploit everybody.

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Conspiracy is not Facts

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There's no conspiracy. There's just an industry with arms to sell and it's opening up new markets. It's also the most powerful lobby in the U.S. Congress.

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A country called Norwayland just gave him $ 734,872,500 so YES! War is great biz.

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You should read up on the American Military Industrial Complex (MIC) if you want to see how war business is Big Business.

We'll see it on full display for the Super Bowl when taxpayers will fund a full scale campaign for more military funding inthe name of "security"

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Its crazy! MIC basically runs the WH. Along with Big Pharma, The Energy Complex, The Media Complex & The Banking Complex ( all ONE big faceless conglomerate ) that lends the government money for this debauchery. The money spent, the shift in wealth, from out pocket to theirs, our children's children will need to pay back.

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Accept in this situation, the cause is just unlike Iraq & Afghanistan. I don't believe Putin would stop in Ukraine. He would instigate division in Poland and other border nations. I could see ten years from now, parts of Poland want to join Russia, let's liberate them from Polish Nazis (just like in Ukraine)!. This is a land grab to restore the USSR. And I would add, although Iraq & Afghanistan were unjust US wars, at they weren't trying to claim those countries as their own.

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My friend , Iraq & Afghanistan was a highway robbery and destabilizing operations.The US and Israel conducted the largest scale theft in history from Iraq.

I disagree, Putin will never try to grab Poland or any other nation. However time will tell.

The US and Nato are establishing FOBs on the Russian boarder. Putting is just defending the federation.

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