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Hup! Bob and Phil's Nightclub Act


I just have to laugh at the ridiculous nightclub act of Wallace and Davis!

Maybe there was more to it than what was shown in the montage, or maybe people today are just more jaded and sophisticated than back in the 50's, but did people really go to see an act consisting of two guys doing a bad soft-shoe and going "Hup!"? Or doing a really bad cover of "We're Havin' a Heat Wave"?

I jest (sort of), but then again I laugh at Ricky Ricardo's Copacabana nightclub act!

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LOL! We think the same thing everytime we see that montage! I imagine the smartly dressed people in the onscreen audience and imagine them saying, "We will dress to the nines, go to the club, drink liquor, smoke cigarettes and watch Wallace & Davis' classy act, because we are sophisticated."

"Hup Hup Hup!"

But what I really enjoy is at the beginning of "Gee I Wish I Was Back in the Army," as Danny Kaye yells(?) "Ma-HAAY!" a couple of times. Man, that sends me!

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Amen busby! A more civilized act for a more civilized era. Give me The Rat Pack or Wallace & Davis any day over most of what's out there now.

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I realized my posts in this thread seem to contradict each other, but that's just my affection for the sheer goofiness of this movie. For the life if me, I can't (or am afraid to) imagine the context in which Phil would be dancing around Bob, waving back at him, or how those "HUPs" came about, but I still find it all more entertaining than mot of what passes for entertainment today.

I love their version of "Blue Skies" and don't think their "Heatwave" number is all that bad, but Marilyn Monroe's was certainly more memorable.

So many goofy moments would be fatal to most movies, but somehow for this one they work. Hard to define, but I found a wonderful review that comes closes to articulating the continuing allure of "White Christmas."

http://www.movietone-news.com/2008/12/imagine-being-lucky-enough-to-ta ke_8051.html



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Yeah, at best Bing was a "hoofer" at the most basic level, and the symbolism of Kaye dancing circles around him is not lost on me. I like to muse on how the act gets to that particular point, including Kaye's fey waving and such, as though he were showing off to Bing (but who would minutes later be himself schooled by Johnny Brascia).

And though the "HUPs" are really no different than many of the exclamations you mention, much like the "HOs" Bobby Darin sings in "Mack The Knife," or Micky Dolenz's "HEPs" in "Goin' Down," but somehow, they seem much more delightfully incongruous when Bob and Phil are merely hoofing and not really singing.

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Well, I'm 27, and I would definitely get dressed up and go to a night club to see Bob and Phil. Well, mostly just Phil, lol! I would've watched him sing, dance, tell jokes or just stand there all day, lol.

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regarding "hups" of other people... don't forget Michael Jackson's pop-grunt (or whatever you call it. Some found it unique and even desirable and some found it quite annoying.

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I'm with BuzzBerkeley. Bing Crosby's stage appeal may be lost on some posters here, but he had a far bigger impact on American culture than almost anyone alive today. Danny Kaye was not as big as Bing, but he was a brilliant funnyman.

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Oh, I LOVE watching Bing! One of my favorite movies is King of Jazz from 1930, Bing's first movie appearance with the Paul Whiteman Orchestra. Already, his personality shone through. Pity a drunk driving arrest kept him out of his big number, which was then given to John Boles.

Bing is great in the "Road" pictures, High Society, and when playing a singing priest. I listen to his radio shows on tape, and grew up with his Christmas specials. Not to mention his role in bringing magnetic recording technology into American entertainment. He was the first to use magnetic tape to transcribe those radio shows, and even gave his friend Les Paul his first AMPEX reel to reel tape recorder, which Paul made incredibly good use of.

Yes, Der Bingle's legacy is widespread (and I'm not even going into his production company's output like "Hogan's Heroes.").

But there is just such an endearing goofiness to most of White Christmas that it's fun to ponder what might have been behind it. I love that movie for all of it, and some of the fun my husband and I have is noodling through the characters and attempting to divine some backstories not mentioned in the movie.

Danny Kaye's character is the more enigmatic of the two, as has been discussed on these boards to a great and often disturbing degree. He was very talented. Another of my favorites is Kaye's The Court Jester, written by the same team behind White Christmas.

But I don't get bent out of shape when someone finds something in this movie odd. IMO, it adds to the fun. It's a genial and earnest confection, made at a time when civility was treasured more than cynicism. And it invites good-natured scrutiny, making it far more interesting to me than many of its more serious contemporaries.


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Agree, SinemaGirl. It's the odd little things about this movie that make it interesting to me. It's an entertaining movie without them, but would be kind of bland without all those little curiosities sprinkled throughout the movie.

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Despite it having some good musical moments, I can't say that I'm a big fan of High Society. For my tastes, it just doesn't stand up well to the original movie The Philadelphia Story.


I recently got the DVD of The Court Jester from Amazon. I wanted to get it while there were still copies to be had at its list price. It appears to have gone out of print, and I doubt that will be high on the list to be upgraded / re-released in a new version any time soon. That combination often leads to price gouging from a lot of the marketplace sellers.

I also find it just a little odd that The Inspector General doesn't appear to have been released on DVD other than by third or fourth tier discount labels. It also seems odd that a movie that could have so deeply embedded an idiom in the language as Walter Mitty did would go so long without having a video edition in print.

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OT, but PillowRock, Inspector General is getting a special edition dvd release. Amazon and Walmart have it for pre-order. It comes out on Sept 20th, 2011. It also has one of Danny's early short films on it. 3 of them are on youtube, they are great, or well at least he was great in them.

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People said the same thing in the 50's about teenagers wearing blue jeans (dungarees) and listening to Elvis. 50 years from now today's teenagers will be lamenting the loss of sophisticated acts like, LMFAO and Kanye West.

Some things never change.

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I don't know if I agree with you on that, not any more at least.

No one I know is lamenting the loss of the great music of the 90s and early 2000s.

Think about it in this context. In the 1970s, we got the first wave of nostalgia. Not because the music of the 70s was bad (although it was pretty lousy in say 75 and 76) but because the 50s stuff had been "out of rotation" for a while and people were discovering it or re-discovering it. And that was stuff that was only 20 years old at the time. It was worth giving a listen to because so much of it was good quality.

There are STILL radio stations that specialize in 50s through 70s music. But not many that are doing 90s music, which is going back in time the same amount as we did listening to the 50s music in the 70s and 80s.

There are restaurants, movies and radio channels still pumping out music from the 50s. There is a big revival of swing dancing as well.

Sure, people complained about Elvis and the hip thrusts and the Beatles' guitars, but the difference was, those people could sing. Rock groups often had full orchestras on tracks. The Beach Boys were real musicians, used real craftsmanship. There was a major shift in the 90s towards rap (while I may be offend some in believing it really stinks), auto tune, and celebrity over talent. Even the detestable Madonna could 1/2 way sing and she could dance.

50 years from now? People will be rediscovering the 50s, 60s, 70s and even 80s music, and the 90s through today will be regarded as cultural low points when it comes to music and movies. No one will know who LMFAO or Kanye West was, and no one will care.

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by - KatrinaW ~ Maybe there was more to it than what was shown in the montage, or maybe people today are just more jaded and sophisticated than back in the 50's, but did people really go to see an act consisting of two guys doing a bad soft-shoe and going "Hup!"?

It does seem silly, but boy! I would give a lot to be able to go to a nightclub nowadays and see Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye doing their "hup!" schtick!!

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I'm certain there's more to it, but like most montages, we're just given a quick taste of their rise to stardom. If the quality of their "Playing Around" production is any indication, it was no wonder they became "Boffo". High quality production all around. Oh, and to be at the Columbia Inn on Christmas eve and watching such a production, with snow falling all around. *wistful sigh*

~j~

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I imagine that they were doing a parody of Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. The "Crooner and Comic" combination was gold for them and many other acts tried to imitate the formula.

Martin and Lewis' act was actually quite racy (for the time) and crazy. A combination of entendre, slapstick, songs, and wild gags. Audiences might end up with their dinner in their lap or a face full of seltzer.

I could imagine an evening of Danny Kaye would be very amusing. An evening with Bingle might be akin to watching paint dry.

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HA, when I first saw this movie as a little kid I laughed at the ridiculously wholesome and average-talent nightclub acts. Gawd, don't even get me started on the things Ricky Ricardo did at the Tropicana, especially when Lucy or worse still Fred and Ethel got onstage. Who on EARTH would pay a cover charge to see a bunch of middle-aged stiff-bodies putting on no better than a school play?

That said, I have seen very few live nightclub acts or arena performances in my life, but it seems odd to me that performers with actual talent at comedy, dancing, and singing aren't much of a draw.


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Hmm, I guess it takes all kinds of interests.

Using your line of reasoning, I have to say, who the heck spends tons more money than that going to sports games, watching bad sportsmanship from overpaid dirt bags who have no affinity for the team, the town the are associated with, or you?

Yet people go there and cheer them on like they are playing for their lives or something, get into fights because someone insulted "their team", then gamble with the rent money over the outcome.

Why on EARTH do people pay to see someone who can't sing or dance today? Or buy albums where auto tune has been used?

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REALLY! Who would have paid $8.80 or $6.60 for that?

"A daffy woman constantly strives to become a star..."

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Best scene in the entire movie. It was great!

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