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Omar Sharif ruins this movie


Its stupid seeing Omar trying to play a Russian. What the hell was the producers thinking?

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I don't quite see your point. Russia is a very BIG country, that stretches all the way to the Pacific and includes populations who are Asian. I don't think the film makes entirely clear (and I read the novel 30 years ago, so I cannot recall), but Yuri might have come from a mixed marriage. He is in Mongolia, where he mother dies. Why? Evidently she is Russian, because she is great friends with the aristocratic Gromekos. Perhaps his father has some Asian background. I don't think Lean's choice was just a random and stupid decision.

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Omar Sharif was awesome in this role. Period. End of discussion.

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No, he's not awesome. He's dull and extremely limited in his range of expression. Half the time he's just wearing this dull, half smile, eyes not moving, expressionless.

He looks OK for the role, but he hardly acts at all.

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I remember reading an interview with Omar Sharif in which he said that David Lean directed him to have a blank or opaque look on his face throughout the film. According to some of the obituary postings today, Sharif had to have his hair straightened daily, his eyes pulled back, and his skin waxed every 3rd day or so. He nearly had a nervous breakdown making this movie.

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Skin waxed means he was hairy and they waxed the hair right? And what does eyes pulled back mean?


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I think it was a random and stupid decision. David Lean only cast him because he worked with Omar before. Having an Arab running around pretending to a Russian completely takes me out of the movie. An Arab looking guy would've never succedded or been treated fairly back in those days.

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It was most certainly not. Sharif was the perfect choice to play Zhivago. Russians are slavs.. Many of them are olive skinned. I know cause I've met a few. How about Gorbachev ? Is he the blue eyed blonde haired dude ? And that's why he is an actor.. An actors portrays people from different backgrounds.

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The producers were probably thinking of the box office draw, since he was a big star after Lawrence of Arabia. But maybe you aren't aware that Russia comprises over 100 ethnicities, and there are lots of Russians who don't "look Russian".

Go to Google Images, and search for Russian movie stars. Then search for American actors who have played Russians... :)

I actually thought your post was going to be about his acting. I thought it was pretty dull and flat. But I had no trouble believing he was a Russian. I've watched dozens of Russian movies. He's credible in terms of looks. They could have found someone who looks more "classically Russian", but what do you want, Yul Brynner? Peter Ustinov?

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When I first saw this, I didn't even know he was Egyptian. I bought him into the role.



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You win the obvious troll award.


Omar was cheated out of an Oscar.

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Right, because anyone who dosen't agree with you must be a troll.

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I don't think Revan is a troll, but he seems incapable of "sinking into the dream". If someone spends the film thinking about these things, of course it isn't going to work for them. Would it have worked better for him if Lean had picked an English actor to play a Russian? As Laurence Olivier liked to point out - it's called acting.

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Would you have still liked the film if an asian or black guy played the roll?

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That would NOT have happened and everyone knows that. Anyway, Sharif had some box-office clout back then, so it didn't hurt to cast him. I just can't get over the fact that he and Alec Guinness are supposed to be half-brothers!
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Peter O'Toole was the first choice, but he had to back out.

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I just can't get over the fact that he and Alec Guinness are supposed to be half-brothers!

I think it's quite conceivable, if the parents they didn't have in common were very different racially. They made Guinness look Eurasian by taping his eyelids, I notice.

Sharif has never been a favourite actor for me, but I thought he was wonderful in this film -- he gave a very soulful and sympathetic performance. I found him quite believable, and a good match photogenically for Julie Christie (who was awesomely beautiful, but who didn't look any more Russian than Sharif did).



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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I half agree. Sharif does seem wooden, unintellectual and incapable of poetry.

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Ermm ... what is it you're "half" agreeing with?



You might very well think that. I couldn't possibly comment.

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I'm sorry, Beul, I was half agreeing that Omar Sharif 'ruins' the movie.

I would have preferred an obviously-intelligent Maximilian Schell playing the poet/doctor. But it's easy to overlook Omar's empty-headedness amongst all the other good things in this beautifully-crafted David Lean masterpiece. :)

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Back in 1969 a stink was made with OMAR (an Arab) playing a Jew, with a real Jewish actor Barbra Streisand in FUNNY GIRL



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It's a well-known fact that Omar Sharif (not his birth name) was born a Jew. However, he converted to Islam sometime in the 1950s when he married a leading Egyptian (Muslim) actress.

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Is it now? I and others didn't know that
Otherwise no one would had made a issue of it.

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It's a well-known fact that Omar Sharif (not his birth name) was born a Jew.

Really? The IMDb biographical section on Sharif says he was a Roman Catholic, prior to his conversion to Islam:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001725/bio

You will have to cite your source(s) affirming anything to the contrary. Maybe you're right, but we'll never know unless we can compare your sources against what IMDb says about Sharif's religio-ethnicity.


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I 'member THAT! The stink was more about the fact that a Jew was kissing an A-rab onscreen in "Funny Girl" - just as the Arab-Israeli War was breaking out. I remember that being on the 6 O'clock news and someone like Walter Cronkite reporting the story.

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O'Toole is the far better actor than Sharif, whom I never liked. Lean wanted O'Toole, but health issues prevented Peter from accepting the role, which is a pity. Imagine a more gorgeous couple than the similar-looking Julie Christie and gorgeous O'Toole... and he was indeed jaw droppingly handsome in 1964, when they flimed the movie.

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I thought part of the reason why O'Toole didn't take the role was because he remembered how long it took for Lean to make Lawrence of Arabia, and he didn't want to go through that again. At least, that's what Robert Osborne said on TCM.

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What's the problem a Semite playing another Semite? He is Semitic and both Arabs and Jews are Semites.




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Omar Sharif was far more intelligent and intellectual than Maximillian Schell. Omar spoke 7 languages, was a world class bridge player, could speak of any political topic and was very educated. I'm pretty sure he was the most educated out of all the actors combined.

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"Julie Christie (who was awesomely beautiful, but who didn't
look any more Russian than Sharif did)."

Julie Christie looks VERY Russian ..... VERY Slavic ...... she strongly resembles my Russian aunt. Omar Sharif should have insisted on the make up and prosthetic people getting him A BETTER WIG!

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That was his real hair straightened.



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this is clearly racism, the whole movie is bunch of british and an american and spanish extras playing russians. egypt and lebanon or syria where michel (omar sharif) family came from is much closer to russia. it's possible that his family are orthdox christians which is the same dominant sect in russia.

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Like a dinner roll?

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So did Alec Guiness and and Anthony Quinn playing Arabs in Lawrence of Arabia ruin it for you?

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My sentiments exactly! Not that I was prejudiced... on the contrary, I tried my utmost to suspend disbelief and to envisage Sharif as a Russian of diverse ethnic lineage (as some here have suggested). But he just looks SO Egyptian. However in fairness, he did appear quite charismatic in the role, and not 'incapable of poetry' as someone unkindly opined. But was he wrong for the part? Yes, without question.

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he's not really an egyptian, he was born there from a syrian lebanese family. do you know how syrians look like, bashar asad, hala gorani from cnn, aryans were in syria from ancient times before they were in western europe, the hittites. ignorance is not a bless, it's stupid.

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If anyone was miscast it was alec guinness, he was too old and to dull for the part.

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I bet if you didn't know he is Egyptian, he would have passed as anything to you. Sharif is white... There are many white arabs. I'll show you countless arabs who look more nordic than the Vikings.

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No, its his facial features. He looks foreign.

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You do realize everybody from Europe to most of the Middle East and Russia are Caucasians right ? Yes, they will look foreign, because every ethnicity has its look. Banderas for example is Spanish, but to me he looks more Arab/Italian. Englishmen have been playing Frenchmen for years, and yet they clearly bear no resemblance to one another. I find the French to be closer in looks to the Spaniards and Middle Easterners. Daniel Craig is British yet he looks Russian. Sergei Lavrov is Russian and so is Putin, yet they look like they are from different countries. Genes are genes. George Clooney and Ben Affleck are both Irish/Scottish, yet they both look like they came straight from Spain, Southern France, Italy or the Middle East. Its genes. Johnny Depp plays Brits, yet he looks nothing like the British. It is called acting. As long as you don't have Caucasians playing Asians and Blacks playing Caucasians, it's fine.

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Take a look at Sergei Lavrov and then see if he looks foreign because he really does not.

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Uh, maybe you have a limited idea of what a Russian can look like. His appearance is totally plausible to me.

I actually thought you were going to criticize his acting, and I was going to join you. Appearance was fine. Acting was dull and shallow.

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No he doesn't.

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You're a moron.

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So are you Troll

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Yawn

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Give Sharif a break. I think the film director "loved" him. He is part of it. Tremendous "old school" film. Nothing like the films of today and as different as Humphrey Bogart films, also bloody brilliant, are from today's films.

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