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"Do not delude yourself this was rape. That would flatter us both."


Apologies if this has been discussed before. This is a somewhat obscure comment. I take it to mean that it would flatter Lara, whom Komarovsky demeans as a sexual voracious "slut", and him, as it would imply he had the strength and "virility" to overpower her.

Other views?

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I believe he simply means that, on his part, she was no challenge.

And, agreed, as far as she's concerned, he's saying she was curious, sex-hungry and complicit.

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No... clearly he means that she enjoyed the sex, after initially resisting. She clearly wraps her arms around him and the sex ends up as consensual.

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Cinematicly, I love the kicking of Lara's legs as Komsrovsky hauls her off to bed-- a few seconds that convey so much, a little akin, to me, with the quick shot of marnie's legs from the knee down to suggest her naked when Mark yanks off her nightgown, rbreaking his promise to leave her untouched on their honeymoon. 'Tippi' Hedrin's beautiful, blank stare as Mark lowers her into the bed is much more in keeping with her PTSD (as we later learn). I think hysterics would have ruined the scene.

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What kind of psycho sees a scene like that--in which Lara's first reaction was to attempt to kill Komorovsky right after--and thinks it was consensual?

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I think David Lean wanted some ambiguity there. He forced himself on her but perhaps she did ultimately enjoy it and her anger toward him might have come from that.

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Look how Wiki describes it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctor_Zhivago_(film)

"Komarovsky attempts to dissuade Lara from marrying Pasha. When she refuses, he pressures her into sex."

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It's a stupid line that tries hard to sound very clever but doesn't make any real sense.

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I'm thinking the same about your post.

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