the N word


Tillie (Isabel Sanford) used the N word, calling Dr. John Wayde Prentice Jr (Sidney Poitier) that name in the film. Should I be shocked or was this the norm in 1967?

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Yes, you should be shocked because Tillie meant it as an insult. The way I understand it, to some African Americans back then that word meant a person of color who thinks he or she is above others of that race. A snob.

That word has always meant someone who does not care about himself or anyone else and who is not proud of his heritage.

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Hmm, I think we better ask Nichelle Nichols who played "Uhura" in the original series "Star Trek."

Lee Bergere (I just looked up the episode in IMDB) playing the part of Abraham Lincoln asks a question something like "Who is this beautiful Negress?" And then excuses himself for making a point of her color.

Lieutenant Uhura replies that no apology is necessary. She is not offended to be called a "Negress" and takes pride in her heritage. I think she mentions being originally from Ethiopia. I'm not sure if that's the right country. She doesn't even take offense at President Lincoln using a female gender specific term.

Culture changes. Polite terminology changes over time. The N-word that most people mean when they say or write "N-word" has always been used as a vicious pejorative, while "Negro" was once considered as just a descriptive term. As I have never been Black in America and never expect to become so, I don't feel qualified to tell someone who is how to feel about the terminology. I am willing to adjust as rapidly as I can to that which is most preferred. However, I refuse to feel wrong for using "Negro" or "Colored" in the day when those terms were accepted as polite descriptive terminology.

Tillie's insult was in the description of how she perceived Dr. Prentice as behaving. Not in her description of his skin color.

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Please. If you're shocked, you're shocked. If you're not, you're not. Don't let your brain be guided by trying to be politically correct. What you feel is what you feel, not what you think you're "supposed" to feel.

"Negro" was quite the polite term then. Ever hear of the United Negro College Fund? Probably more progressive term than "colored". What do you think the C in NAACP stands for? "Black" came about in the sixties and seventies. "African American" became the "accepted norm" decades after that.

Even though it is tame by today's standards, This film is one of the first major feature films to deal with interracial marriage. And it was still illegal in a number of states.

Don't live your life marching in step with what others dictate is right. Have a mind of your own. I'm a left wing liberal, but this PC stuff bugs the stuff out of me.




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I recall on the nightly network news during the lunch counter sitins of the 60s, a waitress being interviewed said "We're not allowed to serve Ns here." It actually went over the air, no bleep.

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Of course it did. It's a horrible word. And we saw it on protest signs. It was used often and still is. Just check out some online discussion lines regarding the president.

But, through the sixties and seventies, the word was used in comedy a good deal: Blazing Saddles, SNL, etc. The title of the best comedy album ever is titled "This N's Crazy" byt the briliant Richard Pryor. There are several songs in "Hair" that will shock you if you're not used to such.

When one watches films of the past, you're going to see and hear all manner of terms from *beep* "dyke", "wetbacks", "Spics", "Chinks", etc. Sometimes it is because there was no opposition to it and sometimes it's to show the speaker is a prejudiced idiot.



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Ten years later on Isabel Sanford's TV show The Jeffersons, the other N-word was used regularly in the first season

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