Did anyone else dislike Joanna??


1st off I looooved this movie...

But one thing I didn't like was Joey's character. She was too naive and acted like she did not understand the size of the situation.

Realistically, knowing her parents you would think she'd know how to handle them better than she did in the movie and she wouldn't be as pushy.

Whenever she said something like "I'll pack my bags for the marriage!!!" It made her character look very ditzy and one-dimensional. If anyone should be taking the situation seriously it should have been her and the doctor... this made me less serious about her character. But like I said this movie was a masterpiece and I liked it a lot.

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Oh god, I'm watching this right now, and I cannot stand Joey. She is ruining this movie. This is a serious film, and Joey's vapid and cloying behavior is throwing this movie way off. The only reason I'm still watching it is due to the great acting of Poitier, Hepburn, and Tracy. But Houghton is horrendous and is doing her best to bring this movie down.

God, she's a giggling fool. And she's delivering her lines worse than your typical awful high school drama student.

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As with most people commenting here I do in fact love this movie...Everyone gave fantastic efforts and the script was wonderful...As for Joey, well at 23 the age she was supposed to be she would be headstrong, and lacking of all the concerns of someone John's age 37 or even more so the parents...The part I believe was written just like she played it, slightly above it all and without reservation simply because she was too young to consider those details...Maybe Joey was a bit harsh in her pushing each set of parents and John for that matter, but for lack of a better term/phrase, the heart wants what it wants and will take no other...Joey was perfect for the age.....Perfect....

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I thought Johanna was fine. I believe it was her optimism and spunk that made the doctor fall for her.
I'm going to have to rewatch with the idea of Johanna being naive in mind.

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From a recent interview with Katharine Houghton:

Houghton played Hepburn's daughter in "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner," but wasn't thrilled with the role because it was so vapid and different from whom she really was. She begged director Stanley Kramer to retain a scene in which her seemingly bubble-headed character shows some smarts and confronts her father with his racism, but "Stanley Kramer said, 'You don't understand America. A lot of people will be upset by this film and if you appear to be an intelligent, articulate young woman who knows what she's getting in for, you're not going to be sympathetic.'

"I said, 'I couldn't disagree with you more. People are going to hate me because I'm a cipher and they're going to say why would a man like Sidney Poitier fall in love with a girl like that? It's more racist that you make me a cipher because you're saying that my being white and pretty is enough and it isn't.'"

The scene was cut . . .

What was infuriating about Joey wasn't that she was vapid, but that she was deliberately vapid, in a late-'60s P.C. way (before that term had been coined).

In fact, that's one of the reasons I think the marriage was doomed: a lot of her "naivete" was put on, a look-how-well-adjusted-I-am posture; therefore, there was a subtle feeling of shock-effect in her intentions which, ultimately, would have de-railed the union.

But for all of Houghton's revisionist assertions, it's her casting that's the problem: she's more manipulative and cloying than the lines she's given. The reason her innocence seems bogus is because of the actress and her disingenuous demeanor.

And while I hate to defend Kramer's defense of the Joey's density, for 1967 mainstream movie audience, he was likely right. The subject matter itself was beyond shocking at the time, and any additional "edge" from the film would have made the filmgoers of the era even more defensive than they already were. So it was delicate balance.

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I know, I know, I'm responding to a post 3 and 1/2 years old, but in case anyone happened upon this thread, I really felt compelled to comment.

I don't see Joey as stupidly naïve (or selfish like some posts say), but rather as someone accustomed to getting everything she desires all her life (with her upper-upper-class upbringing, I mean just look at her house (!), and the way her parents talk about her and to her), and that she just puts on a smile when things get difficult, so I can see how that would give the impression of naivety.

The reason I don't think she's actually naïve is the scene where she's in her bedroom talking to Tilly. Tilly furiously points her finger at her and yells "And if you want my opinion," then Joey cuts in "I don't want your opinion and if I do I'll ask for it! Oh, I'm sorry, Tilly, I don't know what came over me, but you can't mean what you're saying. How can I love you and not love Dr. Prentice, would you just think about that for a moment? Besides, you're the last person I'd expect would have a problem with this." So this shows Joey knows exactly what's going on and is not dim-witted or stupidly naïve.










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