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Should be re-made with a gay couple


It would be the Guess Who's Coming to Dinner for our generation, having the same effect on today's audience as this film did in 1967.

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I wish gays would stop trying to co-opt/copy/counterfeit/reference the black struggle for their own personal benefit. That someone would suggest this movie be remade with a gay theme quite frankly is offensive...not because homosexuality is offensive, but because you're trying to exploit a film that represents the struggle and progress of a DIFFERENT community for your own personal gain. It's almost like plagiarism; just with a few different words here and there.

If gays want marriage and other societal freedoms, then they need to carve out their own UNIQUE path to it. Stop trying to bum a ride on the train black folks rode on because it's just THAT easy to do. Stop trying to draw a parallel because you know that the Black Civil Rights Movement is arguably the most significant civil rights movement the country ever saw.

Oh, and to the people who make the comparisons between "passing" and being in the closet...you do know that MOST black people do not have the luxury of "passing," right? The ones who did were a very small minority of people, many of whom were mixed race. The average black person cannot pass anywhere near as easily as the average gay person can hide in the closet. One is about physical looks/genes, and the other is about personality/outer behavior; so that comparison is null and void.

Bottom line:
Keep your eyes on your own paper and stop trying to use/forge a comparison to another communities past (and current) struggles to garner more sympathy for yourselves and to speed up your trek to acceptance. You never hear black people try to use what gay people go through to illicit more understanding and compassion. Be more original, please.

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^^^^ PREACH

At least there will be plenty implied.

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A brilliant post, wereitis. But your defense of horrid Ann Curry negates not only your other opinions but perhaps even your validity as a human being.

Thanks for shopping K-Mart.

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Ahh, but you stalked and persecuted me, first, wereitis. And your selective lies give me amazing superpowers.

But you obviously relate to the smarm of Ann Curry.

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"Smart and sexy", deranged and un-well psychologically. Whatever.

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Curry ain't mentally right, face it.

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So this is about money, her contract? I'm glad Curry had a good agent.

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Only Conan wasn't insane.

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None of which removes Curry's bovine status.

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Strikeback, you entirely misinterpreted the point of GWCTD. That movie was not about black civil rights. Loving v. Virginia was decided in 1967 allowing interracial couples to marry. Not disallowing blacks to marry, so you are quite wrong about this movie. So it's not gays piggybacking onto black civil rights, though there are comparisons. In fact now that same sex marriage is legal now in every state, I think the comparisons would be quite apt in a remake with gays.

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I can imagine the climactic quote : "Dad, you think of yourself as a man. I think of myself as a human being"

"Darth Vader is scary and I The Godfather"

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The Bird Cage reminds me of a gay themed "Guess Who's Coming to Dinner".

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"Let's not ask for the moon, we have the stars".

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I have one very fundamental objection to the idea - not a homophobic objection, but one relating to drama. One of the key dramatic points of Guess Who's is the surprise of Miss White Bread suddenly showing up with a black fiance. Now they could make that with a gay couple, but the real question is whether or not the surprise would be the fiance(e) or the coming out. If the child had already come out, then there would be no real shock element in him/her showing up with a same sex partner, but if the child had not yet come out, then it would really be a coming out story, which is a whole different kettle of fish and would change the nature of the story altogether. So I wonder if that plot twist could really work without making an essentially different film.

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I was thinking the same exact thing!

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Good point, mark-1589, but, there is a difference between parents accepting that their child is gay and the acceptance of the fact that said child wants to marry a same sex person, thus declaring their LGBT-ness to the world, and the acceptance of a same sex partner for ones child. For these reasons, the movie is totally relevant for LGBT equality and could be profoundly interpreted with a gay couple.

I think that with upper-middle class families as depicted in this movie like the Draytons, a lot of it depends on geography. Such a family in New York or California, might, today, not have an issue with a child bringing home a same sex partner they intended to marry and be in full expectation of approval. Yet the same person born in Texas, Oklahoma, or even Ohio probably wouldn't have that expectation.

Families like the Draytons in the Midwest or South may or may not even accept their gay child and if they do, probably only accept them because it is THEIR child, and would probably resent gay pride events or the child expecting as full an acceptance of a same sex partner from their parents as the parents would give to an opposite sex couple.

At least there will be plenty implied.

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Excellent points, Tickerage. I hadn't thought of it in that way. Thanks.

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Thanks Mark. :)

At least there will be plenty implied.

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I just thought of another film that might be remade with a gay twist - from the same year in fact, 1967 - The Graduate. How about Ben comes to his homecoming party only to be seduced by MISTER Robinson, his dad's partner and unhappily married to Mrs. Robinson. How would that one play out, I wonder?

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No that is NOT provocative enough. A girl from an Evangelical Christian Fundamentalist family brings home her Muslim lover !!

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"My beautiful laundrette" (1985) :

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091578/combined

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I seem to remember an american TV movie about a gay teenager and his mother being appalled by the whole thing and rejecting her son.
Then he dies (commits suicide ?) and she then spends her whole life fighting for gay rights.
Can't remember the name of the movie...

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I would not watch. But you could expand it to, "Hey Ma, Guess Who's Pregnant (and I don't know who the father is?) Seriously...

in theory, you could make it any odd couple you want.

I don't think society is ready for a gay couple version.

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The movie was called 'Prayers for Bobby' fleurus-d-864-162834. Really, Irony77? In 2014 when over 40% of US citizens have marriage equality locally and nationally and public opinion in favor of LGBT marriage has been over 50% in favor for four years and counting? People are more favorable towards gay marriage now then they were for interracial marriage when GWCTD came out.

At least there will be plenty implied.

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