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The Greatest Comedy sorry i dont make the Rules


not even some of the best of comedy come close also this was in the '70s a seismic shift across all Genres that made the industry as it is today Brits edge us Americans in comedy

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IT IS VERY GOOD...AS IS 20% OF WHAT MONTY PYTHON PRODUCED...THE REST OF THEIR WORK IS AN INSUFFERABLE MESS THAT ONLY TRUE POSERS PURPORT TO ENJOY...MEL BROOKS SINGLE HANDEDLY DEFEATS THE PYTHON....NEXT.

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you could say the same about Mel brooks
The Producers and Young Frankenstein only appeal to certain audineces

The best works Python:
Holy Grail
Life of Brian
Meaning of Life
A variety of sketches (20%)

Whereas Mel has:
Blazing Saddles
Spaceballs








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ROBIN HOOD MEN IN TIGHTS.
LIFE STINKS.
YOUNG FRANKENSTEIN.
DRACULA DEAD AND LOVING IT.
SPACEBALLS(MY FAVORITE)
BLAZING SADDLES.
SILENT MOVIE.
HIGH ANXIETY.
HISTORY OF THE WORD PART ONE.
THE TWELVE CHAIRS.

THE MAN IS ESSENTIAL VIEWING FOR ANY COMEDY OR FILM FAN...MONTY PYTHON ARE GREAT BUT SERIOUSLY HIT OR MISS BEFORE THEY BROKE UP AND MADE A THOUSAND IFFY SOLO WORKS.

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You're up early, what time is it where you are?

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He's good yes , both him and python are almost an "aquired taste". Most people on the street could only name a couple , if any , of either of them's films

Mel's done more volume , but the big 3 python films are works of art , to me anyway.
Didnt that dracula one score about 4 on imdb?


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Perhaps, but it seems to me like everybody quotes Spaceballs and Holy Grail. Life of Brian is legendary amongst comedy fans, as are Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles.

Ultimately, can't we just say they're both drop-dead hilarious and get back to laughing?

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Young Frankenstein is excellent.
Spaceballs, uh... not so much...

But, I do prefer Monty Python to Mel Brooks so my opinion on the matter may be called into question.

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They have both made a lot of rubbish, let's be honest.

Brooks was in his prime up until around High Anxiety but lost his touch after that. I always felt that Brooks humour never moved with the times, and was always quite lowbrow and obvious. He continued to make homophobic gags, bodily function humour and the like. But the world changed, attitudes changed.

With Python they were always hit and miss, even the TV show had some really unfunny stuff. Their peak for me was Life Of Brian. Second Holy Grail. Meaning of Life had its moments, but was more concerned with trying to shock than amuse.

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Loved Meaning of Life. It's my favourite one.

I wouldn't really say either had made "a lot of rubbish". Some, sure, but not a lot.

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Colour me "poser", then. I'm not saying the Pythons never missed, but I've been rewatching the TV series recently and howling through much of it. The films are better still, with Holy Grail's classic status, Life of Brian's surprising profundity, and Meaning of Life (best of all, in my opinion) synthesising the madness of the show with the philosophical depth of Life of Brian.

I'll give you this, though: Mel Brooks is a comedic genius who deserves a place as a legend of comedy for Young Frankenstein alone. The Producers and History of the World: Part I are also favourites of mine.

Now, just like the Python's had some ho-hum sketches in their repertoire, Brooks isn't a 100% grand-slam champ. I think Men in Tights and Spaceballs are funny, but not up to his usual standard, and Dracula: Dead and Loving It was, in my opinion, kinda subpar.

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IM GLAD YOU CAN ENJOY THE PYTHON SHOW...I JUST COULDNT...FUNNY HOW OPINIONS DIFFER...WHILE AGREEING WITH YOU ABOUT BROOKS OBVIOUSLY,SPACEBALLS IS EASILY MY FAVORITE OF HIS FILMS...I ALSO LOVE DEAD AND LOVING IT...MEN IN TIGHTS IS THE CLOSEST TO A MISS IN MY OPINION.

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Yeah, I love it. Opinions certainly do differ. But Brooks is brilliant. It's hard to pick a favourite. And even his ones I find less funny (like Men in Tights) still possess a cornucopia of great gags (Dom DeLouise in Men in Tights, for instance).

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For that decade, I'd put this behind Young Frankenstein. I might even consider Blazing Saddles at #2.

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There are no rules and there is no such thing as "greatest comedy".

Although, if there was, Holy Grail would certainly be a good contender for the title.

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