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Suspiria: Overrated, Boring, Annoying


This was the last film I saw at a REAL movie house, the great old Norwest theatre in Detroit. I picked up the VHS copy years later, and found it tough viewing.

How this film achieved cult status, or even been considered one of the best horror films is beyond me.

The movie is very slow going. Jessica Harper is cute, but to me, a bit lightweight and funny-looking for a female lead.

I tried to watch this movie a third time and couldn't make it. The main culprits? First, the aforementioned slow story line. And the idiotic, electronic soundtrack, by those masters of the genre, the Goblins, is exceedingly annoying.

It's not scary music. It's not even music. It's just moronic.

I prefer to remember Joan Bennett as the beautiful film-noir actress that she was in the forties. I prefer to remember Alida Valli as the sad girlfriend of Harry Lime in 'The Third Man'.

I understand that Argento is regarded highly in some circles. But this movie is to me a text book example of how NOT to make a horror movie. Then again, my taste runs to classics like "The Old Dark House" (the original, of course).

In short, I wasn't scared by any of the witchy proceedings at the dance school for girls.

Two thumbs down, and a bash on the heads of all of 'The Goblins' with a moog synthesizer.



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It's beyond my comprehension how this boring and dumb flick could have achieved a cult status.

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Because everyone has different tastes.

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I agree with the OP. Overrated piece of *beep* only liked by people on LSD.

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Suspiria is one of my favorite movies of all time. It's all about the atmosphere and whether or not you're willing to sacrifice great acting and a coherent script to allow yourself to be immersed in it. If you're too caught up on technical details then you'll never enjoy it. It's an audiovisiual experience and you just have to let it lull you into a state of pacification. It may sound odd, but I love watching the movie before going to bed because the twisted logic and strange music and colors are very nonsensical and dream-like. It puts me in an altered mental state whereby I'm not thinking about things rationally anymore. It's dream-logic. I also love the boarding school plot. It reminds one of a journey and being away from home. It ignites your adventurous side. I love how Suzy arrives in another country and all these weird things start happening. From the moment she steps foot in Germany it's like she enters another world. I love that feeling and it sparks my own imagination as well as my desire to travel and have my own adventure, though hopefully not involving a coven.

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Overated most certainly, but I wouldn't say it was boring far from it. I thought that some of the characters were annoying but not the film. Watched Suspiria for the first time last night and it was a wonderfully colourful and noisy mess :D Great use of lighting and music, although they could have done with using the main theme a bit less. Found the use of random odd voices to be interesting. Oh and thumbs up to the dog. It killed an annoying blind guy AND got away with it :D

I don't want to say much about the acting, but it was uniformly awful throught!

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Personally I was expecting more from Suspiria considering the positive reviews I read. After watching the film I feel it is overrated, the acting was not great and the horror element to Suspiria at times was unintentionally funny in my opinion.

If there are any positives I can take from Suspiria it would be the use of lighting to convey atmosphere. It was intriging to see the corridors filled with red light, the green lighting used just before the death of Sarah. It can be argued that the green lighting foreshadowed her death. A creative way to make the audience active.

"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not".

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If anything I disagree with the comment made by the original poster about how Suspiria is how not to make a horror film.

Horror today, mostly seems to be about torturing people, random violence, guts and gore for the sake of it. The films are often devoid of anything else - no atmosphere, no real plot, no real point to the film. On the other hand Suspiria for me creates a very compelling mysterious and scary atmosphere - the film itself could be classed as a character, it's something different.

The acting might not be the best but that's often common with a lot of horror films, but the actual set set pieces, the murder, atmosphere and the music all work to create a nightmare.

I showed my ex this a few months ago while we where dating and it scared her. Some say it is overrated but I find Suspiria to be one of those films that mainly horror buffs seem to know about. A lot of the young horror fans of today don't know of Dario Argento and Suspiria which is a shame.

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It's known as 'film criticism', Mr. Movie Guy.

I still assert people that find a movie like 'Suspiria' real 'genius' in movie-making are wrong.

And Mr. Movie Guy, you have the right to be wrong for the rest of your life. I have no doubt you will.

Your use of '*beep* and various misspelled four-letter words (no doubt to preserve your ability to write such sophisticated rants as yours on IMDb) seems to reveal the mind of a moronic child.

And you have a right to remain a moronic child the rest of your life.

So you don't 'judge' anything anymore, eh? It's obvious you still have opinions. Not about movies it seems.

'It's medication time, it's medication time....'

Have a wonderful life.

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You can't critisize it, it's art.

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So every movie is great because it is 'art'?

I'm amazed at the many replies that this subject gets. Why? Let me guess...many of you people believe this to be a great movie. That's fine with me. I just disagree with you. Is that not o.k.? Why have message boards and reviews? To not leave messages or 'criticize' (like it's a dirty word)?

And when I do reply, I have to think all over again about a movie I don't like. Music by the Goblins? How hokey is that? And that lousy music...oh hell....

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I love the movie but I can understand why a lot of people really dislike it. Reading over this long thread, I see you keep coming back and are fascinated by the film. Even though you personally do not enjoy it, it's obvious there's something about it that keeps bringing you back. This is a testament to Argento's work...it simply can't be ignored.

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Trust me....I ignore 'Suspiria' just about every day of my life. Argento may have made some good films, but 'Suspiria' truly sucks. The music by Goblin is annoying. The movie is not scary, which is what I watch horror films for. I'm amazed that 'Suspiria' has any cult movie status. There is nothing to recommend here. It's not even a 'fun' bad movie. It's artsy-fartsy horror schlock. Truly an embarrassing end to the fine actress Joan Bennett's career. Like Virginia Lake appearing in 'Flesh Feast'. I bet I'd enjoy 'Flesh Feast' more than 'Suspiria'. Did Goblin break up? I sure hope so.

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I think Goblin is still around actually. They do some small tours every now and then. Anyway, I understand your dislike of the film. It does have a lot of issues. But, for me, there's something about the surreal atmosphere that I personally really like. It's unlike any film I've seen before. I consider it a work of art. Each to their own.

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It's with a certain sadness that I have discovered art is very subjective. But we can learn to live with that. Your ten favorite movie list would be different than mine. You know what would be great? A reunion tour featuring Goblin and the Del-Tones from 'Monster From Party Beach'!

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Haha, yeah, but the world would be so boring if we all agreed on everything, right? :) This is what I love about any art, it is indeed subjective. May I ask, have you seen any modern/recent horror films that you like? I find they are definitely few and far between today. I saw this movie Oculus a couple of weeks back. It had a nice eerie atmosphere. I'm big on horror that is psychological and relies on suspense rather than the blood and guts.

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Basically, Loomis, I am a snob. I rarely am interested in most new movies. I did enjoy 'The Sixth Sense' and I think 'The Blair Witch Project' was very well done. I saw the remake to 'Evil Dead' and it was nothing but blood and gore, without Sam Raimi's humor. How many remakes of 'Dawn of the Dead' do we need?

'The Conjuring' was a bit creepy, but haven't we done the possessed doll bit to death? I recently caught 'Nightmare on Elm Street' on cable, and it was better than I remember it. The original story is interesting, but how many sequels did they make? They took a good idea and ran it into the ground with that one.

I know a lot of people are fans of the 'Friday the 13th' series, but these movies are more comedic to me than horror. Each film features forgettable characters, usually twenty-somethings playing teenagers, and I just watch them and wait for Jason to do them in. When you don't care about characters, you don't mind seeing them hacked to death! But that's the 'blood and gore' genre, which I agree with you, is less interesting than psychological, subtle terror.

I don't know if you are familiar with Val Lewton's films, but some of them are rather good, especially 'Cat People', 'Bedlam' and 'The Body Snatcher'.

The problem with current cinema is a) they don't really know how to make movies anymore and b) the audience is jaded and desensitized to dialogue and images. Less is more. The golden age of movies would not have existed without the Hays Code. It forced directors and writers to be more creative.

Speaking of zombies, has that not been done to death? George Romero's 'Night of the Living Dead' still works for me, and I love the first 'Dawn of the Dead'.

One of my favorite 'horror' movies involves science fiction. 'Invasion of the Body Snatchers' (the original) succeeds at both genres. The most chilling scene is when Dana Wynter awakens from her sleep. The remake in 1978 was very good in a different way. It was genius to cast Leonard Nimoy, the emotionless Spock, as the psychiatrist.

My favorites from the classics are 'The Invisible Man', 'The Old Dark House' and 'Bride of Frankenstein'. 'The Wolf Man' is also quite good, although it would probably bore modern audiences.

I've heard of 'The Oculus'....never seen it. I also confess to a guilty pleasure for Barbara Steele, basically the film 'Black Sunday'. I've got a lot of her films, and most of them are quite terrible, but I love her face almost as much as the camera!

You are right, Loomis, it would be boring if we all liked the same 'art'. As a rule, I don't trust anything that is too popular. I never underestimate the stupidity of your average (fill in the blank)!

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Wow, thank you for such a detailed response. Let's just say I agree with pretty much everything you said. I'm 35 and I must say I'm so bored with most movies today. Honestly I'm seldom wowed by anything new coming out. I find they are just trying to cram too much stuff in to the film that subtlety is forgotten. Everything has to be bigger, louder. A disturbing trend I'm noticing today it's the way sound mixes are. They are way too loud. I find I have to do my own on-the-fly mixing with my remote when I watch. Anyway, I like older movies too. Yes, Nightmare 1 is still effective and creepy. I actually met Robert Englund recently. I'm usually not one to get an autograph but for him I had to make an exception since Freddy scared the hell out of me when I was a kid. It was a cathartic experience I guess you could say. Btw, very friendly and talkative guy...nothing like Freddy, haha. And yes, The sequels were mostly crap except for perhaps part 3 which was somewhat creative.

I've seen the original Cat People and love it. I love the use of shadows in that film. Haven't seen "Bedlam" and "The Body Snatcher" will definitely check them out.

I love Romero's original dead trilogy because at least he injected social commentary into the films which makes them interesting. Zombies get very boring after a while if you have nothing new to say, just look at The Walking Dead.

Invasion of the Body Snatchers (the original) is indeed an incredible film. Very creepy and had something to say. And I absolutely love the '78 version. It's a perfect example of how to do a Successful remake. The ending to that film gives me chills just thinking about it. And it also has one the greatest uses of a cameo ever...Kevin McCarthy returning, thus making it a sequel in a way....Brilliant!!

I gotta say I'm ashamed to say I have not seen all of those classic Universal monster movies. I've got to get to watching those soon. Thanks for reminding me about them.

Would like to write some more but I'm doing this from my iPhone and I'm not at home. Anyway, perhaps we can chat again soon on here. That's what I love about a forum like this. You never know who you're going to meet and what things you can learn from them. Thanks again for those movie recommendations sir!

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Hi Loomis,

It's nice to know that at your tender age you are aware of Val Lewton. Most people think he had a hit with 'Danke Schoen'! I don't usually write to the forums, because I assume most people are writing about current films and I am not interested in modern 'cinema' (which is an anagram for 'anemic').

I'm really excited about the upcoming Oscars. Not. I think it's hilarious in 21st century Hollywood that they now nominate nine movies for 'Best Picture' and no one even saw them. And most of them will show up in a bargain bin two weeks later at Walmart. I make the joke that I will wait for the movie on cable and make a point of not watching it then either!

The culture has been in the garbage can for decades. I just turned sixty, and I am painfully aware that the 'Golden Age of Hollywood' is over. George Clooney is not Cary Grant. In fact, why would I even bother to watch a George Clooney movie when I can watch 'Notorious'? Then again, when I became mature enough to appreciate Frankie Baby Sinatra, I found it superfluous to listen to, say, Tony Bennett or Dean Martin. But then again, I'm a purist. It has something to do with me being a snob.

I feel sorry for the younger generations, as they can't possibly remember a time when rock and roll was even slightly 'dangerous'. Now that I am officially in an advanced state of rot, I realize that the last 'rock and roll' groups that I found interesting were Alice Cooper and Led Zeppelin! I understand why kids listen to the garbage that they do. They are fighting generations of parents who tried to force the Beatles down their kids' throats!

The 'Golden Age of Pop Music' ended with the breakup of the Beatles. I have studied the top hit songs over the decades, and pop music became contrived and dull once the Beatles broke up. I'm not saying that there has been nothing good since 1970, but too often I am struck that so much of the music of the sixties was 'art', and it appears today we only have 'self expression'. 'Self expression' is not art.

But then again, as you suggested at the start of our correspondence, art is subjective. And unfortunately, even 'truth' is...although ultimately, it is not! My brother pointed out that there were great films in the seventies, and there were. Roman Polanski's 'Chinatown' came out in 1975, and it's a masterpiece, much like John Ford's 'The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance' was a masterpiece, and if you see these movies in the context of their time, you realize that they were 'throwbacks' from another era. 'Chinatown' successfully recreates a film noir 'thriller' and it's in color!

But somewhere, the quality of the material, for the most part, is gone. I have no doubt somebody is playing some new music that I would find interesting, but you have to wade through so much 'self-expression', and I'm looking for 'art'. 'You Tube' is a great resource for finding old songs, films, etc. I pay for cable, but I find myself simply flipping on You Tube because with 600 channels, my cable service has nothing on.


I've even considered that many years in the future, the whatever crop of 'young' people will finally decide enough of Hollywood history. You already have generations of kids that refuse to watch anything unless it is in color. I don't know how they go about ignoring old Hollywood classic films, but they will find a way. And at that point, God knows what will be considered 'classic', 'iconic'. Thankfully, I'll be dead!

On that cheery note, take care...nice to meet someone who shares some of my thoughts. Now, I'm off to You Tube!

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Nuff said.

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I agree. Suspiria is shockingly bad.

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