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Was 'Monroe Ficus' ever confirmed to be gay?


I was recently having a discussion about the 1981-83 sitcom _Love, Sidney_ -- in which Tony Randall's character (the Sidney of the title) is definitely gay, although his sexual orientation is very seldom discussed or used as a plot point in episodes. However, the series didn't play "is he or isn't he?" guessing games with the TV audience about Sidney's homosexuality, and it is clearly mentioned that he had once been in a long-term relationship with another man.

So since _TCfC_ came from the same era, I started wondering whether any of the characters ever made a direct statement about Monroe Ficus being gay, or if viewers just had to make this inference based on the fact that the character was a super-swishy young man from San Francisco!

(My family lived overseas in the first half of the '80s, so I never saw more than a few episodes of each show on VHS tapes that people would send us from the States. Nonetheless, I distinctly remember seeing an episode of _Love, Sidney_ in which Sidney and his straight female roommate are trying to figure out how to tactfully break the news to a clueless third character that Sidney is "you know, THAT way" -- I was maybe 10 at the time, but it was still perfectly clear to me what "you know, THAT way" meant! But I can't remember ever seeing an episode of _Too Close for Comfort_ in which the other characters in the cast actually took notice of Monroe's flamingly stereotypical gayosity.)

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In one episode, Monroe contacted a therapist (sexual surrogate) because he was a virgin and felt something might be wrong. This is the only referrence to his sexuality to my knowledge. I really never cared since he was just a likable, gentle guy.

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for what it's worth, I saw this show when I was 14 - 19, and didn't think he was - just overdone & overacted as a nerd/geek. I loved that show - Lydia Cornell gave me the 2nd actress chubby I can remember (Connie Selleca from 'Greatest American Hero' was 1st). I also clearly remember the episode where he was chasing Lydia Cornell (after spending a week in 'confidence camp' - what straight guy wouldn't?) and another one where he was uh, forcibly whacked off by 2 women in a van (!!!). He didn't say anything about the unnaturalness of it since he was gay, etc. They did treat it as a (comical?) sexual assault. This was the early 80s, where a guy being sexually assaulted by women was considered funny. Another memorable moment from THAT episode was when he & Ted Knight work out where he was driven, and the address was 357 East Clintwood. :-)
Anyway, the show was funny overall, and while his character got irritating at times, they never insinuate3d anything other than he was a goofy straight nerd. Maybe they were afraid of getting cancelled like 'Love Sidney', the Tony Randall sitcom that got cancelled soon after his character's orientation was addressed too often. Puzzling, since Billy Crystal got away with it in 'SOAP'. The vagaries of entertainment.

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Good points. All I know is if I was gay, Lydia Cornell could've converted me. As a straight teenage boy, she severely fried my hormones. ;-)

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From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_J._Bullock

"In 1985, while Too Close For Comfort was being retooled as The Ted Knight Show, Bullock learned that he was HIV positive. In 1996, Bullock's partner of six years, John Casey, died from AIDS-related complications.[1][2] Bullock is a longtime survivor of the virus and, as of 2011, was still healthy due in part to antiretroviral drugs.[1][3]

On February 17, 1999, Bullock was arrested outside a bar in West Hollywood, California for possession of crystal meth."

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I google this and found this
http://www.ugo.com/channels/filmtv/f...s/jimjbullock/

DE: I read that he never believed you were gay even though you told him.

JJB: Well, it's funny how far we've come in only fifteen years since the show ended. It was just unspoken then. I was uncomfortable in my own skin; I certainly wasn't comfortable being out in my career. I didn't know what being out would do. It was an odd place for me to be. Everyone who was close to me knew I was gay, but it was closeted thing. I don't know that Ted was comfortable being around gay people. I don't know how many gay friends he had.



**On a side note, I love Ted Knight, but a blind man could see Bullock was gay! **


Read more: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?t=272346#ixzz2PGxESRhi

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I always thought it was hilarious when they would have a plot where Monroe "liked" a GIRL. My whole family would laugh at how silly it looked. JM J would be swishing around as if he were about to take flight as he gushed gayly about a girl he liked. It looked ridiculous. Same thing with Johnathan from Who's the Boss. Whenever there was a plot that involved Johnathan liking a girl I'd laugh my ass off.

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by throbertmcgee ยป Fri Feb 18 2011 12:51:36
IMDb member since February 2011
Post Edited: Fri Feb 18 2011 13:02:45
I was recently having a discussion about the 1981-83 sitcom _Love, Sidney_ -- in which Tony Randall's character (the Sidney of the title) is definitely gay, although his sexual orientation is very seldom discussed or used as a plot point in episodes. However, the series didn't play "is he or isn't he?" guessing games with the TV audience about Sidney's homosexuality, and it is clearly mentioned that he had once been in a long-term relationship with another man.

So since _TCfC_ came from the same era, I started wondering whether any of the characters ever made a direct statement about Monroe Ficus being gay, or if viewers just had to make this inference based on the fact that the character was a super-swishy young man from San Francisco!

(My family lived overseas in the first half of the '80s, so I never saw more than a few episodes of each show on VHS tapes that people would send us from the States. Nonetheless, I distinctly remember seeing an episode of _Love, Sidney_ in which Sidney and his straight female roommate are trying to figure out how to tactfully break the news to a clueless third character that Sidney is "you know, THAT way" -- I was maybe 10 at the time, but it was still perfectly clear to me what "you know, THAT way" meant! But I can't remember ever seeing an episode of _Too Close for Comfort_ in which the other characters in the cast actually took notice of Monroe's flamingly stereotypical gayosity.)

I don't remember it ever being an issue, but I didn't watch the show religiously.

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It's funny, in Sweden the term ficus is used to describe an effeminate gay man. (slightly derogatory)

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No

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This is such a stupid thread.

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MONROE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE STRAIGHT.

The actor in real life was gay, but the character obviously liked women. His gayness transferred to the character but the character was never referenced as gay. Keep in mind back then being gay was not cool. I think part of the joke was that the character obviously appeared gay but was not.


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The actor that played Monroe is gay, which is why Monroe appeared to be gay as well I'm sure.

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