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To those who know about NASCAR and have seen this film...


This film was on British TV last night. I was wondering, and even my wife asked the question:

All the bumping and barging, the smacking into the back of people, knocking them out the way, the "rubbin' is racin'", the knocking them into the wall if they come round on the outside, etc. I assumed that was probably all Hollywood bullsh*t and that there is no way that would be allowed or happen in real Nascar racing. I guessed that any blatant ABC (Advantage by Contact) would be disqualified.

Did I guess right? In real Nascar, just how much contact goes on between cars?

Thanks in advance to anyone knowledgeable who replies!

Jason.

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If you blatantly put someone in the wall or spin someone on purpose then yes, you'd get a penalty flag. The racing in this movie was indeed over exaggerated.

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I will add to that. It was exaggerated, it's a Hollywood movie. However, there is A TON of bumping and rubbing that goes on.

Depending on the track, on the longer, faster tracks, bumping is used as an advantage. It is called "bump draft". When two cars line up together they share wind resistance with the second car getting the biggest advantage. The second car is able to go faster because of less resistance (Tom Cruise demonstrates this on Nicole Kidman's leg). When this happens on the longer tracks, the second car will speed up and bump the car in front of him, giving that car a push or momentum and they both go faster. Most drivers agree this is a dangerous thing to do, but they do it anyway. The dangerous part is if you don't hit them straight on, you might spin the other car out. Dale Earnhardt was killed when another driver accidentally bumped the rear corner of his car, turning Earnhardt and sending him straight into a wall.

As far as "rubbin's racin'". It's true, it is. And it happens. Cars rub up next to each other all the time. Sometimes on accident, sometimes not. It's not as pronounced as in the movie, but it does happen a lot. When you watch races, you will see big, black circles on the side of cars. These are from the tires of other cars they rubbed up against.

When one driver tries to pass another on the outside, the car being passed might try and "squeeze" the passing car into the wall. Basically, the car being passed edges up to the wall and forces the passing car to either slow down, or make contact. So basically, they are pushing them into the wall. Again, that doesn't happen every time, but it isn't uncommon.

Hope this helps. And you should watch some NASCAR if you get a chance!

And by the way, I enjoyed the hell out of this movie. Being in England and not knowing the sport, what did you think?

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I'll add to your post as well. If you think more about the period this is based in, the "rubbin is racin" idea was even more evident then. Bumping is more frowned upon now than it was even 10 years ago, much less 17-20 yrs ago, and it still happens today. Yeah the movie is exaggerated, but considering that the movie is based on late 80's racing, the banging and rubbing then was much more than it is in NASCAR now...

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How 'Days of Thunder' failed NASCAR

https://ew.com/article/1990/08/10/how-days-thunder-failed/

DRIVERS AGREE: `THUNDER` COULD USE REALISM TUNEUP ...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1990-07-08-9002270351-story.html

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https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/ic75vh/days_of_thunder_is_so_abysmal_and_has_the_most/

So at one point in the race Cole is in last place. Then there is a big accident or of course he has to get through. But shouldn't there have been a caution flag raised? I mean he just goes right through and then suddenly catches up to every single car as if he is just speeding by them. Again I'm no expert but that can't be plausible.

Then when he enters the pit he screams to get out in front of that pace car or the race is over for us. Now they do get out in front of the car but I understand that he would have to basically go completely around the track catch up to all the cars and pass them again to regain his position which again is completely ridiculous.

Then in the last turn he and Russ Wheeler are smashing into each other. Wouldn't that give the cars behind them the ability to just pass them because they're obviously going faster? It's as if this movie completely forgets that there are other cars in the race.

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People use to complain about this movie for years, for it's 'unrealism'. What is truly funny, is that some of the events depicted in this movie, like driving out of the pit and smashing into Russ Wheeler's car during his victory lap, that actually happened many years later by a very famous NASCAR driver, I want to say Tony Stewart just off the top of my head and not googling.

This movie is exaggerated, but accurate, and for some reason NASCAR members and fans are somewhat embarrassed when the events in this movie are discussed. They always want to play it off like Days of Thunder is ridiculous and stuff like that never happens, but in fact it's kind of right on.

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