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This movie was painful to watch


I can't believe I'm writing this, as it's only a matter of time until I'll be flamed. First off, I'm not going to write one of those mindless posts with little to no punctuation saying that this movie sucks and giving little to no reasons. I watched this movie after seeing Stand by Me. While looking on the IMDB forums as well as Google for similar movies, I kept coming back over and over to The Sandlot. I decided to watch it, and amazingly, struggled through every moment of it. I'd viewed different posts asking which people like more: The Sandlot or Stand by Me. Just about everyone said it was a really close call, as they are both classics. Obviously, I began watching with pretty high expectations.

The acting was extremely flat. Yes, I'm aware that these kids were obviously very young, but so was Jerry O'Connell of Stand by Me (not saying he was the best of the four, but he WAS the youngest).

The idea of the supernatural dog was annoying in itself. How was a dog supposed to outsmart a large group of kids over and over? Once it escaped, why did it only chase down Benjamin Rodrguez and not the rest of the kids? How was it able to jump through a pane of glass and walk out unharmed? Once the boys freed the dog from under the fence, how could it have just taken a liking to them? Why was the dog hoarding kids' baseballs anyways? Stand by Me definitely had NOTHING supernatural, and it was written by Stephen King! It was this that made Stand by Me so believable.

What was up with those annoying sound effect that was played whenever a pop-fly started to drop? I groaned every time I heard that. There was little in the movie to let us know that it took place in 1962. Had it not been for the drugstore, the movie could have pretty much taken place during any time period. Perhaps one of the more major annoyances was the fact that the kids never really matured. If anyone remembers Stand by Me, there are several scenes when the kids start opening up to each other about their broken homes, their hopes, and their dreams. There were also several powerful scenes which featured the kids breaking down.

If I had more time to think, I'm sure I can find many more annoyances with this movie. The only redeeming thing about watching it was hearing the song Green Onions. Overall, I'm giving this movie a 3/10.

I'm aware that I've only compared this movie to Stand by Me, but that is because Stand by Me is definitely the best example of a coming-of-age tale and was magnificently put together. It had great acting, great script, and great direction. Also, many people on these forums compare the two movies together. Stand by Me was a kids movie made for adults. The Sandlot was a kids movie made for kids. I'm guessing that the only reason this movie is viewed at as a classic is because many people saw it when they were young, and it brings back sentimental memories. Even if I'd had far lower standards (for example, if I hadn't seen Stand by Me), I still would have hated this movie. So here is my challenge: explain to me why you think this movie was so good. Also, I ask that because I've actually taken the time to write a thoughtful response, you do the same. No one will take you seriously if you don't. Thank you all for reading.

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@Grilloz, I don't consider myself a loser for not liking a crappy movie, even if it was generally well-received. Also, I am not sure what I should be choking on, nor am I sure that I would like to be choking on "it." Judging from your response, you didn't bother to read my entire post. Also, I get the feeling that you never passed a third-grade reading/writing level. I strongly suggest that you spend less time on the IMDB forums, and more time improving these skills. I specifically requested that you not flame and that you take the time to write a well-thought-out response. Please do so next time you post.

@MetFanMac, Offdwallnotdrack, I take the "verbose" comment as a compliment. The truth is that I, myself, am only 16. I can tell that my stylistic choices convinced you that I am older. Unfortunately, there appears to be a trend among youth (and immature people, such as grilloz) that they misspell words, ignore grammar, and often have nothing valuable to say. I've not fallen into that trend.

I have not had nearly enough time to forget what it was like to be a child. My childhood was nothing like the ones on display in this movie, granted, but it was also nothing like those displayed in Stand by Me. I still fail to see what made The Sandlot such a good movie.

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...Actually, my remark was directed at Grilloz...

Personally, I don't consider The Sandlot to be "great", but it's ceratinly a fun little movie and I can easily see how it would strike a chord with a lot of people--just not me. But that's just how I

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Really? I think you may have been sheltered as a child, as in, you were not allowed outside to play with the other boys and girls in the neighborhood. Because obviously you don't recall the exaggeration and memories of your childhood. There was nothing supernatural about this movie involving the dog "Hercules", it was all about childhood perception and the stories that followed,"not based in any reality whatsoever"....in case you were confused....... which made "Hercules" a larger than life foe for the kids in 'The Sandlot'. Take the movie for what it is, not a coming of age film but a memory of childhood....well, not yours anyway.

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So are you going to claim that Hercules never chased them at the end? Your explanation would make sense if not for the last 10 or so minutes.

I was not sheltered as a kid, though I do admit that I didn't play outside so often. However, I believe that this is an invalid argument to make. Stand by Me depicted childhood in a very different manner than my own. I still loved it.

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Awesome answer, couldn't agree more!

http://www.thenaughtypenguin.net/must-see-movies/the-sandlot/

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I'm an over 50 guy and will take a stab at your comments.

Like many others have already written, I enjoyed this movie and not for the acting but for the subject matter. Like the sandlot kids, I had a group of guys I hung out with and played nearly every sport available to kids of our age with them. Why was the dog portrayed as the antagonist? I remember being afraid of even small dogs when I was a kid; I was a skinny, short runt and nearly every animal on the face of the earth seemed huge to me. Only after hitting puberty and growing a little did things begin to seem a little smaller. Why did the dog chase only Benny? Because he was the only one who ran - he also had the ball but not sure if this is why old Herc chased him. Dogs tend to run after those who run from them; the same dogs who used to chase me (and sometimes make me delay walking the last 50 yards home b/c the route took me right past a house with two barky and chasy dogs - I would actually sit by the side of the road until my dad came home and grab a ride with him but always made it seem like I had just stepped off the bus) actually stopped short and looked up at me after a barking charge when I finally found the courage to stand my ground.

Oh, and I was the first of my group of buddies to move away. I didn't do a very good job of keeping in touch (no internet available in 1973 and I wasn't much of a letter writer at age 13) and have regretted it. You meet a lot of people as you move through life but friendships cultivated as adults are never quite the same as those which come from a schoolyard playground, or a sandlot . . .

Ah, reminiscing . . .

Whatever doesn't kill me only makes me stronger. How strong are you?

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It seems your main gripe is with the "supernatural dog." That storyline was only one part of the movie but I think you completely missed the point. It was not a "supernatural" dog. LOL. Hercules was just a big dog that lived in the fenced yard behind the sandlot. From the perspective of a kid, he was a beast. Up until Benny confronts the dog, they exaggerated the dog to allow the viewer to see it from the kid's point of view. It wasn't supernatural, the film simply showed the kids exaggerated perception of him. When Benny confronts him, we finally see the dog for what it really is, just a big dog that collects baseballs. The reason the dog only chases Benny is because he has his ball. Have you ever played fetch with a dog that loves to fetch balls? When you have the ball, he only chases you. Dog's have a one track mind, and Hercules wanted to get that ball from Benny. After the dog was injured and then rescued by the kids, they all became friends, and Hercules becomes part of the team. It may be silly and dumb, but there was nothing supernatural about it at all.

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i'm going to have to second the opinions, that:

A) you should not be comparing this to stand by me, regardless of how people compare them on these forums. My best guess would be that they are comparing them on a nostalgic level as opposed to technical/critical level.

B) You probably didn't grown up playing like these kids. Not many will anymore with internet and video games being what they are, but I think I can speak for a majority who grew up like the kids in the Sandlot(not necessarily in the 60's) when I say it accurately depicts the way we played.

As far as the supernatural dog goes-it's pretty clear at the end of the movie that is wasn't supernatural at all, just a buildup of their imagination. The baseballs were the equivalent of a dogs bone-so when Benny took the dog's bone it gave chase. Nothing magical or senseless about it.

It's too bad you didn't like it. It really is a great movie that captured what it was like to be young and outdoors all the time. Sadly, I fear new younger viewers will regard this movie much like you, as they will not have had the experiences to relate to the way these kids hung out.

Is there anything you liked about it? I mean, a 2-3 out of 10 is a pretty terrible score...

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@alkaline4200

The only thing I liked about the movie was that it DID depict childhood before video games. I am well aware that childhood is not what it once was. Remember, I've repeated numerous times that I very much liked Stand by Me. Both movies shared that one key ingredient. I am regretful that my childhood was not more like those depicted in The Sandlot. Still, even with this key ingredient, The Sandlot falls very short.

As I've already said, I am only 16. Still, when I watch movies like Stand by Me, I am swept with a great sense of nostalgia. I am well aware of 60's culture, and in many ways, prefer it to today's. I often times feel like I was born 35+ years too late.

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I think, that because you are 16, and clearly foreign, you are an idiot. You are not even trying to enjoy the movie, only trying to judge it by your experience, which do not match up with the fanbase of this movie. All your complaints have been explained so far, such as the supernatural dog being told from the perspective of a grown man trying to retale the tall legends of his youth. But, you either fail to grasp such a simple context or are incapable. Either way, you are just too damn stupid to enjoy this movie.

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I think, that because you are 16, and clearly foreign, you are an idiot.
So all foreigners aged 16 are idiots?

You, sir, are the cretin here. Your post is nothing more than a series of ad hominem attacks. At least the OP has the sense to respond without resorting to personal belittlement. I, for one, agree with several of the points he rasied - & even if I hadn't, I wouldn't be as huge a jerk as you in a public forum.

Hope that helps.

I have opinions of my own, but I don't always agree with them - George Bush

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The world needs more honesty and less bleeding hearts that shy away from the truth out of 'compassion'. I say *beep* your feelings.

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I might be a little late to this thread, but are you kidding me? I don't think anyone would want to live in the sixties. The 21st century is a great era to be born in and it will keep on getting better. Stop trying to be pretentious and sound mature.

It's easy to criticize a movie like this about the cinematography, editing, screenplay, etc. Jesus, man! The whole point of the movie is told from a child's perspective, where all the film elements are difficult to bring up. It's a movie about the joys of just being a kid. Running around your small town, getting in trouble with your friends, crushing on girls and laughing so hard your stomach hurts. I think the reason you hate this movie so much is because your love for Stand by Me. Just relax and watch it with an open mind. I guarantee with this mindset it will leave you all fuzzy inside and with a huge smile on your face. My childhood wasn't very similar to this, however it still gave me that pit in my stomach and made me feel extremely nostalgic. And judging by most of the reviews here, the director accomplished that very well. Stop stopping yourself from enjoying this movie!

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You review movies LIKE A GIRL!!

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I see your points, and I respect your opinion, even while I utterly disagree with it. For a lot of us, this movie is our childhoods. When you see this movie as a kid, it will stay with you for a very, very long time. It's a simple story, yes, and it does lend itself to a lot of very childish moments, but that's alright for us.
It's hard to explain, but this movie is the classic growing up movie for kids. It's about being young, being new in the neighborhood, making friends, trying to relate to people, trying to get accepted, and above all it's about Baseball. Not winning, not competition, just about Baseball. Playing Baseball. Talking about Baseball. Living Baseball. Growing up with Baseball. It sounds about as cliche as it could be, but we don't see it that way. For a lot of us, it's more like this is the movie that set a lot of those cliches.
As for Stand By Me, I haven't seen that, so my opinion on it is notably incomplete. But the way I always looked at Stand By Me (I've seen bits and pieces of it), it was more of a grown-up movie than a kids movie. A lot of the stuff in there goes right over the heads of a lot of kids. I'm not saying the movie is too mature and too complex for any kids to watch/enjoy, but you do miss a bit as a kid. Stand By Me is about growing up an becoming more mature and a better person for it. The Sandlot is about growing up. I'll admit Stand By Me is the better film, by most standards of judgement. But a lot of us still love The Sandlot.
Okay, I don't know how many coherent points i managed to make in all that. I guess all I can say is that a lot of us love The Sandlot for every reason you hate it. Because of this, saying it was "painful to watch" will upset a lot of people. It's like insulting Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

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The Sandlot is supposed to be seen through the eyes of a kid. All of the exaggerations in the movie are how a kid would see them. When you're a kid, certain things come off as more incredible (such as a pretty large dog) or more amazing (such as a ball being hit out of it's seams). It's trying to get across how you would see what was happening if you were in their shoes. Things just seem altogether more epic as a kid, so the fantasy parts of the movie are just trying to get this point across.

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Maybe the problem is that you have to see it first when you're a kid. I saw this in the theaters when I was 8 and it instantly became a favorite. To this day I still love this movie. I think it really captures the greatness of being a child. Doing nothing all summer long but playing baseball (or any other game you were into) with the exaggerated story of the big scary dog (who didn't have something like that in their neighborhood when they were a kid?). It takes place in the 1960s where kids were a lot more innocent than they are today and they actually PLAYED OUTSIDE in the summer instead of today where technology is ruining our youths imagination. Maybe that's why people compare it to Stand By Me or even Now and Then?

If you don't like it that's your deal but there's a reason why this movie is rated so high... It is a GREAT kids movie for a lot of different reasons.

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Wow, I didn't even have to read your entire response to know that you've probably lost every bit of childishness in you. (I'm not sure that's a word but that's besides the point.) The reason the dog outsmarted the kids was BECAUSE THEY WERE KIDS!! Kids have wild imaginations and are amazingly impressionable. If all your friends tell you that there is a beast in a grumpy old man's back yard, you believe them. You may act skeptical, but you secretly believe them. Comparing this movie to Stand By Me is completely irrational. As a kid, I would never want to watch that movie because it deals with some difficult topics while The Sandlot is pure fun. It's like comparing True Grit with Avatar. You can't compare a drama movie starring kids marketed to adults to a comedy-drama movie starring kids marketed towards kids and teenagers. It just doesn't make sense. The two movies are in completely different genres and have different messages. Stand By Me is a more mature movie for adults who want a good story with some nostalgia. The Sandlot is so great because the movie is really just about childhood friendships and the "pickles" you get into as a child with your friends.

Your pessimistic attitude towards this movie makes me question what your childhood was like. If you can't understand this movie, it's because your over analyzing it and subsequently, taking all the magic out of it. I've seen this movie dozens of times and it's been one of my favorite movies since I first saw it as an elementary school student.

Maybe you're too old to appreciate this film for it's beauty. That's perfectly fine. There are plenty of other people in this world who find this movie brilliant and amazing.

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