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why celebrate racists on film?


This artist was a racist - he portrayed blacks as mammies and minstrels - and should not be celebrated in film. Don't waste your time or brain cells on it.

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Crumb writes in "The Coffee Table Art Book" "...using racist stereotypes--it's just boiling over out of my brain, and I just have to draw it...All this stuff is deeply embedded in our culture and our collective subconscious, and you have to deal with it." Crumb appears "color blind" when paying tribute to the African American kings of the blues on the Museum's Blues Page. Not to mention the fact that he's obviously obsessed with black women!

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What happens if racism isn't portrayed?
It's that kind of censorship that I'm afraid of.

I say let the biggots out. Let them seperate themselves from the pack so the rest of us can get on with life.

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man you're such a nazi (1st post author)! you hate racists, what's up with you?
life is beautiful, so why are you being so hateful?

you know, hitler hated groups of people too, and that didn't go anywhere. dont be a bigot against racists--they are people too.

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The Niggir Hearts comic was the funniest thing I've ever seen. Sho 'nuff!

But anyway, this entire conversation never should have happened. So stop, its not worth it.


life's ill

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the *beep* hearts toon, crumb explained himself, he said it was making fun of how corporate america will try to make a buck off of anything, you ignorant person you.

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Why celebrate retards on message board topic?

This poster (elliz) was a retard - he has no idea what the *beep* he is talking about - and should not be allowed to post. Don't waste your time or brain cells reading him.



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I don't wish to get into a personal slagging match, because your views are your own, but how could you possibly think Crumb is a racist through his art. Quite the contrary is true, his comments (in art form) are aimed at the fears of various people-types regardless of colour or creed. To me, and this is my opinion, he observes the stereotypes created by the human race and translates them to page in a humourous visual form. One example that springs to mind was published in OZ, depicting a guy (white) walking down a deserted street at night with a sinister shape (black) following him. It progresses through several drawings as the man quickens his pace to escape his imaginary assailant, with the final picture panning in on the black guy wishing that the white guy would slow down and walk with him, because he too was scared.
Crumb had shown that both men were equally terrified of their situation and observed the racism of others. If anything, Crumb is laughing at the stupidity of his own kind.

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Who cares if he's recist? We can't all get along.

Téigh trasna ort féin

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forget this right wing left wing nonsense, ANYONE who doesnt understand satire is a moron. and the fool who started this thread is exactly the kind of person who crumb tries to target with the ooga booga comic....a STUPID person

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*Sigh*.....

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(by dane youssef)


We all have racical and personal prejudicial biases. And anyone who says they don't is a lying P.C. coward.

The drawing style of Crumb a 1930's cutsey-slapsticky Bosco and Honey kind of cartooning. Crumb acquired this because he himself is self-taught. Never went to art school, never.

Back then, blacks were drawn with a minstrel show look and tribal African facial paint like they might wear in New Guniea because that was the look of cartoon characters and slapstick charcaters back in those days. The minstrel shows and other ethnic caricatures.

This stuff was popular and the style back in the '30's and '40's, when Crumb was a young'un. Mostly ideals (and "entertainment" like that has been forgotten--or at least discarded).

A racist? No more than the rest of us--and those around during that era, most likely. But a sexist more than anything? He was a mama's boy and was born, in his own words, "an ugly guy." So women wanted nothing to do with him. He was as sensitive as they are, but in more pain. Why weren' the women into Robert? Yes, he was ugly, but he was a better person that they were. A good man and he had a good soul.

The school bully knocked his older brother down and every girl in the school swooned over the bully. Yet once he got famous and successful, women wanted Robert. And how did he prove he was a better person?

He cheated on girlfriends, dated a different woman every night of the week and used these women for fodder in his art and his sicker than sick sexual desires.

"At least I hate myself as much as I hate everyone else." --R. Crumb

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