People hating on TLJ for Two-Face, why?

I have been defending Batman Forever for years. While I feel that this movie gets more hate than it should, I do feel that James Earl Jones was channeling Joker or some other over-the-top villain when he shouldn't have. Then again, I think that Aaron Eckhart gave a very good performance but it could have been a bit edgier in a more comic-oriented film. I guess what I'm saying is that neither version quite got it right but aren't terrible either.

This is a great Batman movie -- just enough campy villainy from Jones and Carrey, along with serious psychological drama for Batman and Robin and Chase.

I thought Carrey stole the show and Jones seemed to be playing a cartoon character, but they needed a loose cannon to balance out the methodical (but over the top) Riddler.

Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey made an awesome duo

You actually got the impression that you have two buffoons who are in way over their heads in taking down Batman, but somehow they achieve some success together

You don't get that with de Vito's Penguin and Pfeiffer's Catwoman: the movie portrays them as legitimate threats with solid diabolical schemes

And then in Batman & Robin you have Schwarzenegger and Thurman and the duo is absolutely ridiculous. It isn't campy but amusing, it just a complete trainwreck that you enjoy for being a trainwreck, not for anything related to their chemistry or the plot of their characters

None of the Nolan duos of villains shared much onscreen chemistry. You had one great scene with Ledger's Joker and Eckhart's Two-Face, but that's just one scene

So with Carrey and Tommy Lee Jones you had something unique. It's like watching two naughty children planning some fucked up prank. Their chemistry is my favorite part of this movie

Because he acted absolutely nothing like Two-Face. Two-Face is supposed to be more of a tragic figure, in BF he was just a clown. Also he kept flipping his coin until he got the result he wanted which essentially defeats the purpose of the coin. If you want to shoot Bruce, then don’t bother flipping the coin, just shoot him.

because the whole film is over the top camp neon garbage

Because my first introduction to Two Face was Batman The Animated Series and Tommy Lee Jones' Two Face was nothing like him. Two Face was a bad choice for this movie as he was not part of the era that this movie was imitating. Frankly they should have just brought Joker back as that was who he was acting like most of the time.

As I said on another thread, in some of their scenes together, Jones looked like he wanted to strangle Carrey.

Carrey played everything over-the-top and totally camp, forcing everyone who had scenes with him to do the same or be completely overshadowed by the crazy man, and well. Jones is a master of subtlety, underplaying, and deadpan humor, and I think he'd have liked to do something other with the role than play deliberate camp at top volume. I also think Jones knew that the director was letting Carrey run away with the film, and the result of all that was a weak performance from Jones and scenes where he looked like he wanted to strangle his scenery-devouring co-star.

I saw it in theaters when I was 13 and loved it. There were certainly cartoony moments, but it was really a Batman movie for kids. I don't revisit it more than once a decade or so, but it's similar to the Adam West Batman series.

We're all so used to the dark and brooding Batman, but there were decades where the comic was just like adam west series.

If it's not your thing, fortunately there are at least eight versions of Batman to pick from. The early movies, Adam West series, Tim Burton, Joel Schumacher, Animated series (my favorite), Christopher Nolan, Zach Snyder, and the upcoming version.