Weak robots make no sense


The robots in these movies are weaker than grass blades, mowed down easier and do about as much damage. What gives?

First of all, WHO would design ANY battle/combat robot/droid that way? Who? Why?

Second of all, WHO would BUY such robots? There would be a million Karens wanting to see your manager, because your robots are useless and they want their money back. These robots would probably be too weak for GARDENING, let alone combat! WHAT was George thinking?!

Does it make the Jedi Knights (such as they are in these movies) seem powerful when they EFFORTLESSLY slice down an army of these things? I am more impressed when I see some underpaid teenager sit in a lawnmower cutting grass while listening to some soul-tearing noise way too loud.

Now, think about if they were more robust, looked stronger (seriously, could they look ANY weaker?), were actually useful and tactical, and knew how to 'predict' events, movements, actions and such based on statistical probabilities and such? I mean, massive databanks to use algorhitm on to predict how anyone will act in any given situation, then using that to plan countermoves - all in a millionth of a microsecond! That's what they SHOULD be able to do, MINIMUM.

Think about if they were given their own, short scenes - a few scenes depicting a robot group doing amazingly demanding, skill and precise timing-requiring tasks impossible for humans (except maybe the ninja or high-level Jedi). Think if they were able to ACTUALLY COUNTER the Jedi moves.

What about showing about 10 robots, each of which have a specific specialization programming, one could be a masterful scout with a cloaking belt, another could be genius at strategy and tactics, another would be able to tank a lot of damage, and so on and so forth. Each robot would get a name, 'personality', a cool voice, and each robot would look strong and good on camera (or 'camera'). They would all be shown to be masters of their craft in their own, short scenes.

(This movie wastes SO much film or hard drive space for useless racing, SURELY this would be a better thing if you want to waste shots)

Now the audience would not only care about the robots a little bit, but also know the robots AREN'T pushovers, and can hold their own in a battle. Sure, Jedis are still going to be stronger and better, but when these 10 robots 'die' by the hands of the Jedi, we could have at least an EPIC BATTLE, where even the Jedi are injured, because the robots are just SO good at tactics and whatnot, and they would have TREMENDOUS trouble destroying even one of them.

When they finally 'die', some of their deaths would be more sad than the teddy bear dying in RotJ, or when C3P0 gets shot to pieces (I still don't get this, as they have the same-looking robots roaming around without anyone asking 'who are you', but whatever) in TESB.

Wouldn't this be much better not only cinematically, but to make the Jedi seem incredibly powerful? I mean, which makes you look stronger, beating a punching bag or beating a strong enemy?

The Jedi look like pushovers, because all they defeat are even pusheroverers. Err.. pushier overs? Pushovaries? Never mind, my point is, the robots could have a really cool story of their own, and the audience would have to shed a small tear when they are 'killed' by the Jedi, and even they might have a small philosophical question about whether it's right to just maim these things that seem to have a personality (just like people would be shocked if a Jedi suddenly sliced R2-D2 in two halves (I can't bring myself to say 'in half', because it's impossible to cut something into just ONE half)).

Battle robots this weak and 'soulless' make no sense.

(I know robots don't have souls ANYWAY, but C3P0 and R2-D2 are very 'soulful characters', which is all I mean by this)

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George wanted to show the Jedi hacking off heads and limbs.

So that's why he used skinny droids, instead of people.

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Just watched Return of the Jedi recently. The Jabba sail barge battle was absolutely dickless because of this. Luke hacked away with his lightsaber, but there was no blood or loose limbs at all. I hoped that Paul Verhoeven would have directed it.

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I presume the battle droids are quick and cheap to make, so much so that you can buy a million of them for a reasonable price and overrun your enemies with the sheer number of blasters. So what if you lose thousands or hundreds of thousands of them in every battle, and a single Jedi can take out hundreds, if you've budgeted correctly you can flood all the planet's most strategic sites with sheer numbers, as long as you can keep the sheer numbers coming until the whole population is battle-weary and staving.

Now I'm the furthest thing from a military expert, but wouldn't that be a fairly effective strategy against a planet like Naboo, which seems to be peaceful and to have a small military?

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This is what I thought. They need cheap forces that can communicate and fire a blaster. The clone army would be the Droid army successors.

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Yeah, I can see the cheap droids being part of an effective military campaign, not for the most complex tasks, but for those times when you need cheap and tireless numbers. Of course there's no substitute for destroying important targets from orbit or sending in commando teams or Jedi for targeted kills, but the droid armies would have their use for someone who could afford to lose them by the million.

And that's why Palpatine used them and the Rebellion didn't, Palpy could spend all the funds in the galaxy on his armies and they couldn't.

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Probably cheap and good enough to keep down the rabble.

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Lucas: "The Jedi cut them down like butter."
Mr. Plinkett: "Fuck you."

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i will defend til my dying breathe these films are all utter shit thanks to the RLM and Plinkette reviews of them.

afew good scenes sprinkled in doesnt elevate the tragedy and abomination Lucas gave us

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It should first be noted that sometimes the technology in Star Wars doesn't always make sense. Lucas usually went for "the rule of cool," and designed spectacles, not something that would actually work.

Second, most people are not Jedi knights, nor does everyone have a gun on Naboo, due to it being a peaceful world. Despite how "weak" such robots are in combat, they're very effective in keeping people held hostage who can't fight back. Even taking crude weapons to them wouldn't work because they could shoot you before you got near them, and the Naboo are mostly not the violent types. Not everyone is like Queen Amidala, her handmaidens, or Captain Panaka and his guards.

No doubt the Trade Federation made them cheaply and quickly, and relied on their strength in numbers, rather than make each individual droid strong. It was also noteworthy that these particular droids were stupid outside of simple combat and guard duties. All that changed 10 years later when the Clone Wars started, and the Trade Federation came up with Mark II Battle Droids, which were much more dangerous and more effective at combat than the Mark I.

It should also be noted that Lucas tried minimizing bloodshed and gore in his films so that they wouldn't have an R rating and families could watch.

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