Stupid, evil movie

I wouldn't say that it ultimately encourages it. Tyler makes it all seem pretty awesome but the Narrator thinks the whole Project Mayhem stuff is stupid the whole time and goes against it. And in the end he tries to stop it.

Somebody needs to read Any Rand and grow up...

Yeah, although AYN,who I began reading at age 18 in 1961 and met in her office in the basement of the Empire State building basement in 1969, would probably laugh, as typos are the bane of all writers. Still, it was lazy of me not to edit my post more effectively.

I liked your response, and I hear you, but to me the underlying message of The Fight Club, notwithstanding the narration, is the IMPLICATION that fighting for no reason is reasonable, and that destroying obviously rich people's property and blowing up buildings (and not getting caught or punished in the end) is acceptable.

Also, I think you can do better than just "she sucks" in regard to Rand, which is a typical ad hominem argument you seem too intelligent to fall back to.

In regard to fighting, I'm a former Marine (1966-68) and see no glory in fighting, especially for no reason.

BTW, THANKS for the link, it is cool :)

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It's not a movie for an almost "retarded level audience".

It encourages people to *beep* in their pants instead in the toilet.

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Fight Club tells the origin story of a villain and makes people think it's a hero's journey. Tyler Durden in any story except his own would be the antagonist; an insane domestic terrorist and cult leader who's builds up a cult of personality around himself so strong that his nameless followers do whatever he tells them to without question. And in fact he IS the antagonist. But instead of viewing Tyler through the eyes of an outsider horrified by his actions, we're seeing it from his perspective; villains are always heroes in their own minds. It's up to the audience to figure out what they're watching isn't the story of a enlightened leader trying to save people from an oppressive and amoral society but a deranged terrorist creating mass destruction simply because he can.

When there's no more room on the internet, the dumb will walk the earth.

Hey!

I was quite intrigued by your discussion, and wanted to add in some of my thought of the movie. (I'm not a native english speaker so apologies for any spelling mistakes or misuse of words).

I don't believe that the philosophy of the movie should be characterized as evil or bad but probably more as a far away dreamy and unthinkable/undoable philosophy. It's quite contradictory, i must admit, for a movie or a novell to be anti consumerism and still be in that same universe. But still I believe that the movie draws up a lot of valid points about society today, just in a very extreme way. A lot of the quotes that you listed as contradictory i wouldn't say are att all, they fit quite perfectly in with the whole philosophy of the movie. I'm not the best at debating, and certainly worse at expressing myself in a different language, but i will try. Capitalism and all that it entails is not that good or perfect if you look at the whole scheme of things, and here we will certainly differ because of different beliefs. The start/trigger of capitalism as we know it today starts at the beginning of when humans first got together and organized themselves to expand their power, a necessary step was different classes, working and ruling. Since then societies has evolved and different eras emerged. One thing in common is that we have developed more and more but at the same time created a belief that expansion and new technologies is something good for us. The only thing about society, except evolving constantly towards more power and technology is the fact that human happiness will always be limited and can't increase by any means such as technology revolutions and so on, we are as happy as we were when we were hunters and gatherers. The other thing that also is connected to capitalism is the constant increase in class division, suffering and so on, all for the greater future of more advanced technology and expansion. It is necessary that a lot of people have it worse off, for others to have it better, there's no mystery why billions of people are starving. Therefore the movie paints a beautiful picture of something that we once had, which they want to achieve in the movie with a lot of questionable techniques, but that doesn't make their goal stupid.

The whole viewpoint of this movie is largely based on your own philosophy about life, the universe and the future.

I'm 18 years old, and wrote this without much consideration of how to argument about my point, I might just be stupid, to young to understand or simply bad at putting my thoughts forward. It's quite hard, and probably makes me look stupid to bring up such a big mass of history, mankind and the mechanisms behind it, but i felt that it was necessary to make my point a bit valid even though it's most likely lacking 90% of what's needed to back the information and connect it to how i think. It's just a movie, but my understanding of it needed some explanation.

Thanks,
(I'm most likely going to get roasted for this)

Go to hell.