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Is Taken prescient to the rise of illegal immigration and Islamism in EU?


When Taken came out, I remember the French was a bit pissed their country was portrayed as a haven for illegal activity such as wholesale human trafficking, kidnapping and slavery. They point to the completely lawless Paris street in the film as unrealistic and idiotic.

Now 7 years later, we know a million Muslim "migrants" are arriving in Europe each year by boat across the "mediterranean" or the land bridge connecting Middle East (in addition to the millions more "legal migrant"). Muslim gangs in northern Britain are selling runaway white girls as sex slave. French police powerless to stop an magazine office from being massacred. Government covering up crime by "migrants" to prevent public backlash.

It seems Taken has predicted the fall of Europe to Islamism and the colluding of legal authority with criminal elements to preserve a sense of peace on the surface.

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Now 7 years later, we know a million Muslim "migrants" are arriving in Europe each year by boat across the "mediterranean" or the land bridge connecting Middle East (in addition to the millions more "legal migrant").

They're called "refugees".

Muslim gangs in northern Britain are selling runaway white girls as sex slave.

This sounds like a news story you picked up, in which case I will grant you it has happened once. It is not something which "is happening".

French police powerless to stop an magazine office from being massacred.

Norwegian police was likewise powerless to stop a lone gunman from massacring 69 kids on an island in 2011, either. Nor was American police able to prevent 32 people from being killed at a university in 2007. What's your point?


Government covering up crime by "migrants" to prevent public backlash.

And this simply isn't true. What crime has been "covered up"?


It seems Taken has predicted the fall of Europe to Islamism and the colluding of legal authority with criminal elements to preserve a sense of peace on the surface.

There was no "Islamism" in this film at all. Nor is Europe in any danger from this so-called Islamist threat.

History, even recent history, is full of all sorts of terrorist attacks from various terrorist organisations. The IRA, the Baader-Meinhof group, the ETA etc. But it is only when the terrorists ostensibly belong to a different religion that the panic button is pressed, and there is this mentality of being "invaded". The immigrant is forever the bogeyman. He is, after all, "different". He is not "like us". He is one of "them". And it is so easy to focus on the most prominent difference as somehow causal, but it is rather lazy to do so. Especially considering that the people typically recruited to these fundamentalist fractions are secular, not religious, kids who are disillusioned with their lives and looking for a purpose.

And "colluding of legal authority"? That's some conspiracy theory you have there. What on earth would these authorities stand to gain from such collaborations?

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They're called "refugees".

No, they are called immigrants, because thats what they are. Refugees are people who run from war and STOP IN THE FIRST COUNTRY WHERE THEIR LIFE IS NOT IN DANGER. Anyone who comes to france has already failed to fit the definition of a refugee, but fits the definition of migrant. Furthermore, there is overwhelming evidence that the majority of people coming into europe in 2015 were in fact not from areas where war happens.


This sounds like a news story you picked up, in which case I will grant you it has happened once. It is not something which "is happening".

So far 3 such gangs have been dismantled in UK, one of which was active for over 5 years and trafficked over 4000 underage girls. It was dismantled way before the refugee crysis, so they are not related. I refuse to believe there does not exist any more such gangs though.

And this simply isn't true. What crime has been "covered up"?

Well we could start with Cologne rapes....


There was no "Islamism" in this film at all. Nor is Europe in any danger from this so-called Islamist threat.

Were you paying attention? The "main bad guys" were all wearing islamic tatoos and spoke turkish. In fact that islamic tatoo was a call sign of the gang.

As far as threat to europe, islam is a threat to all western world because our values such as freedom of expression and equality is incompatible with theirs. Islamists were the ones that brought back slavery after hundreds of years.


History, even recent history, is full of all sorts of terrorist attacks from various terrorist organisations. The IRA, the Baader-Meinhof group, the ETA etc. But it is only when the terrorists ostensibly belong to a different religion that the panic button is pressed, and there is this mentality of being "invaded". The immigrant is forever the bogeyman. He is, after all, "different". He is not "like us". He is one of "them". And it is so easy to focus on the most prominent difference as somehow causal, but it is rather lazy to do so. Especially considering that the people typically recruited to these fundamentalist fractions are secular, not religious, kids who are disillusioned with their lives and looking for a purpose.

Over 90% of recorded terror attacks in Europe and Northern America was carried out by islamists. No, not all, just 90%. There is no problem, nope, nada.



And "colluding of legal authority"? That's some conspiracy theory you have there. What on earth would these authorities stand to gain from such collaborations?

I agree that they would gain very little, however for example in the case of sex trafficking in UK i mentioned earlier - the authorities later disclosed that they knew this was happening but were too affraid to dismantle it under the threat of being called racists by the media. So while its not so much of a conspiracy, but authorities arent all black and white as you think.







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Yes yes and yes. Thank you for your post, this is the reality of what is happening in Europe today (and was at the time this movie was made). Those who choose to deny it are at best extremely naive or PC lunatics.

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I find that most people arent so much malicious as just uninformed. The mass media is the only source of information for a great many people, and the mass media was running with whatever gets them more clicks (rather than truth) since at least the 60s.

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Actually mass media (the jews) are running with whatever keeps people from the truth in order to complete the genocide of the white race.

https://www.scribd.com/doc/102895985/Jewish-Tribune-Sex-Slavery-The-Growing-Trade-in-Israel

http://www.fourwinds10.net/siterun_data/health/abuse/news.php?q=1293567052

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I have no love for the media but this is moving into conspiracy theory territory.

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Yes, Hollyweird (again...the Jews) have taught us that conspiracy's are mysterious and thrilling, but totally bogus and something to laugh about.

And that's how they hide their atrocities.

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There are plenty of conspiracies that were true (for example watergate) but simply claiming one without proof is hardly convincing.

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No, they are called immigrants, because thats what they are. Refugees are people who run from war and STOP IN THE FIRST COUNTRY WHERE THEIR LIFE IS NOT IN DANGER. Anyone who comes to france has already failed to fit the definition of a refugee, but fits the definition of migrant. Furthermore, there is overwhelming evidence that the majority of people coming into europe in 2015 were in fact not from areas where war happens.


No because they ARE refugees, most of them are escapees from ISIS and Boko Haram who are running away from war to Europe to save their lives. Stop being so naive.


So far 3 such gangs have been dismantled in UK, one of which was active for over 5 years and trafficked over 4000 underage girls. It was dismantled way before the refugee crysis, so they are not related. I refuse to believe there does not exist any more such gangs though ]


Which neither have been muslim affiliated like the OP said i presume.


Were you paying attention? The "main bad guys" were all wearing islamic tatoos and spoke turkish. In fact that islamic tatoo was a call sign of the gang. As far as threat to europe, islam is a threat to all western world because our values such as freedom of expression and equality is incompatible with theirs. Islamists were the ones that brought back slavery after hundreds of years


Were you paying attention? Apparently not because there is no such thing as an "islamic tatoo" since Tatoo's are haram according to Islam. And the traffickers were speaking Albanian you hack, not Turkish not to mention Albania is an irreligious country with no religion as its official state religion considering Albania has declared itself as an athiest country. Islam isn't out to "destroy" your freedom, if that were the case then Sharia law would have been implemented by now. And slavery? now you have gone full stupid, since when have Islamists brought back slavery? Slavery still exists in parts of Africa and they are not affiliated with Islam.

Over 90% of recorded terror attacks in Europe and Northern America was carried out by islamists. No, not all, just 90%. There is no problem, nope, nada.]


And what about the other 50% unreported attacks carried out by non-muslims hmm? Like the recent ongoing killings of Black men by white police officers? Yeah, nice cover up.

I agree that they would gain very little, however for example in the case of sex trafficking in UK i mentioned earlier - the authorities later disclosed that they knew this was happening but were too affraid to dismantle it under the threat of being called racists by the media. So while its not so much of a conspiracy, but authorities arent all black and white as you think.



Lol sounds like some bad cover up since they haven't cracked down on prostitiuion so they are looking for an excuse to not do their job, this is the kind of law you trust?

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No because they ARE refugees, most of them are escapees from ISIS and Boko Haram who are running away from war to Europe to save their lives. Stop being so naive.

You fail at reading comprehension. One cannot be a refugee if one does not fit the definition of a refugee.

Which neither have been muslim affiliated like the OP said i presume.

All 3 gangs were related to islam and used their religion as a shield from criticism.


Were you paying attention? Apparently not because there is no such thing as an "islamic tatoo" since Tatoo's are haram according to Islam. And the traffickers were speaking Albanian you hack, not Turkish not to mention Albania is an irreligious country with no religion as its official state religion considering Albania has declared itself as an athiest country. Islam isn't out to "destroy" your freedom, if that were the case then Sharia law would have been implemented by now. And slavery? now you have gone full stupid, since when have Islamists brought back slavery? Slavery still exists in parts of Africa and they are not affiliated with Islam.

83% of Albanian population are believers of Islam, not much of an atheist country now is it. Islam is very much out to destroy everybodys freedom. it is slaughtering millions in india right as we speak. Sharia law is being implemented in any place where islamists get the majority, such as Lybia. Polls consistently show that majority of european and US muslims want sharia law implemented. They just dont have the numbers to form a vote-block yet.

Islamists brough back slavery in a form of ISIS slaves. Though you are correct that there always were some islamic countries in Africa still dealing in slaves before that.



And what about the other 50% unreported attacks carried out by non-muslims hmm? Like the recent ongoing killings of Black men by white police officers? Yeah, nice cover up.


They are limited to your imagination. There are no ongoing killings of black men by white police officers. In fact if you look at statistics most people killed by police in US are white. And outside of US that issue does not even exist.



Lol sounds like some bad cover up since they haven't cracked down on prostitiuion so they are looking for an excuse to not do their job, this is the kind of law you trust?


Ill trust this law over sharia law even if the latter would allow me to stone you to death.


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No. Don't be so *beep* stupid.

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Watching the film, you wouldn't think that corrupt Arab sheiks were key US allies (check out the US-Saudi relationship, which has been on the go since the 1940s). You wouldn't think the French were NATO partners and even the post-Communist Albanians were in the process of joining NATO, which happened about a year after this film was released. No, the entire world is a vast conspiracy aimed at kidnapping (white) American virgins to be sex slaves.
They were Albanians, not Turks, so Neeson's character gets hold of an Albanian-English dictionary as he begins his investigation. Incidentally, Marko from Tropoje is likely to be from a Christian background with a name like Marko (ethnic Albanians can be either Muslim or Christian).

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You have a point, Londonistan is reported as having the most common birth name as "Muhammad" when you take into account all the different spellings of the name. Just because refugees come knocking on your countries door doesnt mean you should open the door and let em all in!

Hungary is the only eastern european country to NOT allow any of the refugees in, and they are also the country that has NOT had any increase in violent crimes. They are also the most conservative country...theres a connection, conservatism works when you want prosperity!

Whereas all the countries who let the refugees flooding have seen dramatic increase in all violent crimes. Theres areas where sharia law is in effect. Its abysmal over there.

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Absolutely. One of the things that makes Taken so refreshing is how it accurately portrays the growing Islamic menace that is slowly destroying Europe, plus it showcases some of the seedier sex-trafficking coming from Eastern Europe.

There’s no way a Western studio would be allowed to portray any of this now.

The mainstream media is on a mission to dupe Western populations into thinking there’s nothing to worry about, mass rape and murder by Muslims isn’t happening, mass immigration is fine, and that all of society’s exploding ills are the fault of the peaceful, taxpaying straight white natives who are inherently evil.

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