No press screenings...sigh

Anything less than a billion is probably a poor performance for this film. 850 mil is a lot of money though.

Movies now can make that much and still not break even. It's the madness of the industry now.

If there is I hope the junkie XL soundtrack is done for it too. Elfmans was terrible.

The USA has fallen victim to unchecked capitalism. All people believe is marketing now.

The "leggy" part was only because it was released when it had no real competition.

Suicide what?

still waiting on my source lol

Two days is considered late. It's actually not a normal embargo lift for these big movies. Usually 5-7 days is ideal.

Here's the graph they made: https://i.imgur.com/3QlyghR.jpg

Wonder Woman was 13 days before release, War for the Planet of the Apes was 17 days (the studios had immense confidence in these movies based on enthusiastic early screenings).

2 days and under is bad (score wise).

3 days is iffy. Almost like a 50/50 gamble.

Even if JL gets a Rotten score, I'll still see it, just out of curiosity. I still saw SS and BvS

And movies with iconic characters like Batman, Superman, Joker and Wonder Woman (who is now very popular) will be critic proof when it comes to Box Office returns. JL should still do rather well.

But there are still concerns. Ben Affleck almost hinted he wants to exit the franchise. And if these movies keep getting mixed reviews and do not score like Wonder Woman, then future DCEU movies could be impacted. Right now they are doing well at the Box Office, but if DCEU wants this universe to go on for a long time for the next 10 years, the quality needs to improve. Can't keep having a majority of the films being mixed (with some good elements/bad elements).

Reaperscout...man, I like your post!

Rottentomatoes is a reliable indicator. You are not. You think trailers are!

I agree, Evans IS captain America, as much as Downey is Iron Man.

Though I didn't like his first movie at all [never been a fan of Cap] and couldn't help but laugh with the obvious copy paste of is head on a kids' body, the dude gave the character some modicum of likeability. "I can do this all day" has become his staple.

They're the same movie. Diana wants to learn to fight but she's denied this, resorts to subterfuge (Rogers trying to sign up under fake identities). She learns she has extraordinary powers, Rogers was given them. Both then go off to war, recognizing it as a moral necessity, but both are initially kept out of the fighting until they each decides to throw off these restrictions and get involved; both use a shield, both defensively and as an offensive weapon. Diana faces Peggy Carter's dilemma of being uber-capable but not taken seriously in a sexist society; both Diana and Steve have similar romances with uber-capable people like themselves. Both put together a multinational group of endearing misfits to act as their merry band. In both, the war is theoretically against the Germans but it turns out there's a bigger villain with bigger plans and tied to the heroes' own origins; both villains have an evil sidekick who is creating super-weapons. In both cases, the love interests--both coincidentally named Steve--appear to die while trying to prevent that ultimate weapon from reaching its destination, the capitol of the antagonist power (Washington D.C. in one case, London in the other). Both begin then end with a wraparound story set in the present.

There's plenty more, of course--in cloning THE FIRST AVENGER, WONDER WOMAN doesn't miss a beat.