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NOT based on historic figures


Imdb trivia says so, as do many 10* reviews. People are triggered by the 1* reviews that say not true. The movie just appropriates real people's names.

Nat Love was a cowboy, not an outlaw. He met some outlaws once. Settled down and became a rail porter. Wrote a decent autobiography.

Mary Fields worked for a Ursuline convent in Toledo. After that delivered mail by stagecoach. Never associated with outlaws. She was a big momma who worked and dressed like a man! https://www.nps.gov/people/mary-fields.htm

The Rufus Buck Gang were evil motherfuckers who went a six day crime spree. Were arrested shortly and sentenced to hang. Never got out of jail! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_Buck_Gang

List of crimes committed by the gang
July 30, 1895: Killing of US Deputy Marshal John Garrett[3]
July 31, 1895: Coming across a white man and his daughter in a wagon, the gang held the man at gunpoint and took the girl.[4]
They killed a black boy and beat Ben Callahan until they mistakenly believed he was dead, then took Callahan's boots, money, and saddle.[4]
Robbing of country stores of West and J. Norrberg at Orket, Oklahoma[4]
Murder of two white women and a 14-year-old girl[4]
August 4: Rape of a Mrs Hassan near Sapulpa, Oklahoma.[5] Hassan and two of three other female victims of the gang—a Miss Ayres and an Indian girl near Sapulpa—also died; a fourth victim, Mrs Wilson, was reported to have recovered; it is reported that, after their capture, the gang was almost lynched[6]

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Yep, that's all true----the Buck gang were some ruthless thugs, just like Jesse James and Billy the Kid. They were also all hung for their crimes.

There's a good book called Black Indians: A Hidden Heritage by William Loren Katz which discusses some of the people you mentioned, and more. Pretty much every article about the film has already said that while the characters were real, they never met each other in real life---even the director has already said that. So you're not saying anything that hasn't already been said. Other books about black cowboys----who were the first cowboys, period---are Black Cowboys of Texas, and Cowboys of the Americas.

Nat "Deadwood Dick" Love, Crawford "Cherokee Bill" Goldsby (who was a real outlaw, too) adventurer/frontiersman James Beckworth, Bill Pickett, a cowboy who invented the rodeo practice of "bulldogging", and the legendary deputy marshal Bass Reeves were all historical figures and all real people, too----like the ones you mentioned. To say they aren't historical figures is BS---they were---they just aren't celebrated like their white counterparts were because they were black. Nice to hear of them being portrayed in this film though----can't wait to see it.

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