Just recently watched this film for the first time and found it very enjoyable, but I truly felt that the character and scenes of Zeco wasn't needed. I almost found him some what random and unimportant to the story. Who feels the same way? Overall, great and captivating film!
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agree but it was friken crazy ass and funny and so wrong so taking that the film was already mental who cares lol seriously with a film this deranged does abyone care about the tiger rapist???
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Vincente rapes Norma then gets raped himself by Zeco.
Makes perfect sense!
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For all the reasons written above, I think the part of Zeco is essential to the movie. Although, this argument sounds weak to me.
I don't even think Norma was raped by Vincente, Vincente wanted her but nothing happened, she wasn't 100% ok with it but seemed like she could have managed it, if ever Vincente could have gone through with the drugs he had taken.
Norma started screaming because she heard the song her mother taught her when younger, the same song she was singing before her mother jumped by her window in front of her, she found herself in the same state of shock that she had been in when this happened, hence the psychiatric clinic, and the suicide.
Robert is the only one thinking Vincente raped Norma, he was a prey of choice for his experimentation, but I don't think the writers would have wanted us to see some kind of justice in Vera (Vincente) getting raped by Zeco.
I think his character tilts the equation in terms of the captive and Banderas. So, yes in bringing them closer and almost making them forget about their past through this gruesome incident his role becomes vital.
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It wasn't at all necessary to tell the story, but it was kind of bizarre and interesting.
shareI totally agree! Besides how can people imply that he brought humor to the movie while also adding the most horrendous and decadent scene to the already sickening story?
shareI thought Zeco wasn't needed too until I realized that with Zeco, Vincent learns his mistake (rape) by being raped himself. Although I'm not sure if he learned his mistake .. I hoped he would die at the end
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I agree with the previous post, which reflects the wider issue of women's victimisation in society. Though Vincent was not born a woman, being transformed into one and later being raped only emphasised the victimisation of previous female characters in The Skin I Live In.
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in Vincent's case, it wasn't exactly a rape. It was a situation that went wrong. it is not a clear cut rape, and that's how the writers wanted it to be. He didn't really rape her, he misunderstood the whole thing, thinking she was also high, and taking of her clothes because she's seducing him. She lays there silent, she doesn't ask him to stop, until the song plays. She is not exactly against him touching her or being intimate with her, it is simply a change of state of her mind, due to the song, which brought her back to her childhood incident/tragedy. He doesn't get it at first, and his mind is also foggy. But then he gets scared, having a screaming half naked woman underneath him, he tries to shut her mouth, not to have his way with her, but not to get into trouble, then slaps her, and then leaves. A rapist would take advantage of an unconscious woman and take what he wants. Here he finds out that something is wrong, and leaves. He only wanted to make love to her because SHE WANTED IT TOO (due to his impression at least), and since she is not mentally okay, it is easy for him to get the wrong impression.
So he's not evil, and doesn't deserve whatever he had to go through, let alone die (though we all gonna die eventually)
Not needed?
IMO he was the star of the show!
To me it seemed Almodovar was recycling the rape scene from his earlier "Kika", in which a crazy escaped prisoner turns up at the house where his sister works as a servant, ties her to the kitchen chair, rapes the lady of the house, and then basically disappears from the story. Although in "Kika" this was treated farcically(!) rather than seriously.
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