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disney is dumb for betting on blacks and vaginas


as a disney investor it fucking pisses me off. what makes them think starring blacks and vaginas is gonna make people want to see the movies and shows? blacks only make up 25% of the country for fuck sake. it doesn't even make sense to gear it towards them. to add vagina to black too, it's just delusional. that's why disney stock is in the shitter. can black people even afford disney world? as if a bunch of white people paying 1000 dollars per person to go to a park so they can roleplay black people. in what universe is that gonna happen? on top of ALL OF THIS, black people appear to have no self control and are a slave to their base emotions. they can never be a jedi. lol. this neither make sense in the real world nor in the star wars universe.

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I wasn’t planning on watching it, but if it stars vaginas then I will have to check it out.

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lol. you must be mighty busy then since 90% of all big budget productions are vagina leads now.

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One of the best MC comments!
ROTFLMAO!!!

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LOL

Moviebuff is a sick person who is probably already under surveillance or on a list somewhere. No sane person communicates like that. A big indicator of psychopathology that is going to start to erupt into his real life sooner or later, if it has not already, assuming he even has one which is doubtful.

Sometimes, don't you just wish you could press a button and zoom in on some of these psychos just to see them in their native habitat?

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There have been plenty of black people in Star Wars over the years.

And women.

Are you of the opinion that any show that depicts black people as a lead is automatically a failure?

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there have always been great black leads in movies. before the woke era, they got these roles because they were highly charismatic actors who got a great role. nowadays, they're chosen because they're black or female and they got a contrived story to shoehorn their demographic in there. to rebut your question specifically, if the majority of productions coming out were not black or female lead, this would be fine. fact is, 90% of them are such and they're shoehorned and contrived. a popular story type right now is white female lead with incompetent black male companion. that's a contrived story. nobody asked for that shit and nobody would set out to write so many stories like that. yet here we are.

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> if the majority of productions coming out were not black or female lead

The combined demographics of black people and women in the USA exceeds that of white men, so actually, on a purely demographic basis, most productions should not be white-male led.

But in any case, many TV series now have ensemble casts anyway. So your observation is a bit dated just on that basis.

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except women don't like nerdy sci fi fantasy. that's the point. i'm not gonna watch something just because my demographic is in it. same for women.

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Why don't men like watching women? That seems so weird to me. I want to watch male lead shows for the men.

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The problem isn’t the diversity, it’s the writing that prioritizes diversity over story. A well-written and crafted show can star any competent actor and work. This is just poor craftsmanship from the top-down: bad writing, directing, poor sets, poor acting, awful dialogue. It just doesn’t work on any level, and casting a white-as-snow male cast wouldn’t improve anything about it.

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i mostly agree with you and i did mean that in my original statement. however, diversity actually is a problem because 90% of the stories now are it. it's targeting a demographic that isnt even the majority of america. yes, if the stories were extremely good and we had black or female leads, it would still be a good movie. however, can they ever write a good movie where the female hero has no weakness? ripley in alien is good but she was a scared woman. they refuse to write female characters like that now. at the same time, if like 50% of all the movies coming out were ripley from alien, i would hate it too. fact is, woke shit is going wayyyyy overboard. so any way you slice it, it's annoying and sucks.

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Stop following Disney. There's more to modern TV/film than fucking Disney

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if it was just disney i wouldnt even bother. it's literally 90% of all big budget production coming out. foundation, ring of power and a shit ton more but i'm terrible with lists. literally name any big budget in the last 2 years and it'll be like that. meanwhile the male lead movies are just the dumbest fucking white guy who is super good at killing people action movies.

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Foundation was quite well liked.

Sci-Fi/Fantasy: Severance, Fallout, Andor, Silo, 3 Body Problem, Devs, Twisted Metal, Project Blue Book, The Lazarus Project, Dark Matter, For All Mankind, House of the Dragon, One Piece, Good Omens, Midnight Mass, Carnival Row (hurt by the pandemic), all well rated

And this is just in the fantasy/sci-fi zone, and purely US productions (except The Lazarus Project)

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thank you for the list. no foundation was not well liked. it was widely panned. fallout, silo, 3 body were female leads. for all mankind is a delusional woke fantasy where we actually let women do it when a real stake is on the line. we only let women do it now because it's just for fun. if a war really broke out, do you think we'd send women on the front lines 5050 ratio with men? no, women would get slaughtered and we'd just lose the war. we're not sending women to space if it was to beat the russians.

however, upon trying to make my own list, it made me realized only about 50% of the high profile shows coming out are woke, not 90%. right now i am skipping so many shows because they look woke that i'm not sure if the other 40% is accurate. however, the BIGGEST budget shows that i look forward to are fucking woke and it's so annoying. ring of power, house of the dragon, foundation, almost everything disney, 3 body. still, i'll admit perhaps i am getting a case of confirmation bias here.

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>thank you for the list. no foundation was not well liked. it was widely panned.

Based on what? Panned by who? It has a 7.6 on IMDB and the second season was widely regarded as better (it was better).

>fallout, silo, 3 body were female leads.

So?

And 3 Body Problem has an ensemble cast.

>for all mankind is a delusional woke fantasy where we actually let women do it when a real stake is on the line.

It's a highly rated TV show, one of Apple's most successful and acclaimed shows.

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foundation on metacritic got 64 critic, 5.2 user. female leads where they don't make sense for the story = woke. no, 3 body featured a man and they cast a woman for the show. that's woke shit. the pretty woman also made no sense as a genius physicist. for all mankind sucked. it's boring. i don't care what apple says. the point is it's a woke show because it put women where it makes no sense just so they can be in the story. did you think woke was only about blacks?

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>foundation on metacritic got 64 critic, 5.2 user.

Metacritic is not representative. 483 users rated Foundation on Metacritic. 97,000 users rated on IMDB. There's no comparison.

And I don't care about critic ratings. As I'm sure you don't if it was anything else.

>no, 3 body featured a man and they cast a woman for the show. that's woke shit.

What the fuck are you on about? 3 Body Problem has multiple male lead characters.

>for all mankind sucked. it's boring.

It's still highly regarded.

> i don't care what apple says.

I'm not referring to what Apple says. It has a strong user reputation. For All Mankind has an 8.1 out of 70,000 users on IMDB.

>the point is it's a woke show because it put women where it makes no sense just so they can be in the story. did you think woke was only about blacks?

It's alternative history.

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Agreed, and well-said. I think most people know inherently that they are just ticking diversity boxes, and it’s a turnoff. So even if they were to write the next Alien and cast a black Ripley, we’d still stay away, because Hollywood has lost all credibility. They must slowly rebuild trust with the audience at this point.

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blacks only make up 25% of the country for fuck sake


Not even close. What did you do, guess?

Google not working for you? 😆

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im just guessing. who gives a shit though, it cant be that far off. what else are you gonna cry about?

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Actually you are far off, I think it is more like 12%.

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Not crying at all. Was simply laughing (like this 😆), given that you couldn't have been more off, even if rounded to the nearest zero, and were being graded on a curve.

Now I am indeed crying ...crying-laughing like this 🤣

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nah

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Diversity and inclusion is absolutely killing Hollywood

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It kills everything it touches. You can’t choose people based on skin color and expect success. They simply aren’t qualified.

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Has the thought crossed your mind that these actors were cast because they are good actors and not because of skin colour? There are plenty of good actors who aren't white.

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lol except they're not good actors. they're not casting the next denzel or smith for these movies/shows.

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Amandla Stenberg who stars in this series is a good actor.

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how bout the teen looking black sith in obiwan? did that casting choice make sense?

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I was fine with it. I enjoyed Obi-Wan overall.

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you're saying they dont cast based on demographics. how can a nice looking teen girl play an evil sith? that makes sense to you?

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Sure, why not? I think all the roles should be played by nice looking teen girls.

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if you're gonna be a troll, i'm gonna block you. i know you wouldnt want that since you reply to almost every post i make in multiple movie forums. try again kiddo.

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I only reply to you because I assume you are a cute girl.

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No because the shows gender/race demographics are no where near similar to the population so they were clearly chosen based on DEI privilege.

Which is also what the post I responded to was about.

If people are chosen based on skin color and gender rather than their level of talent, the product will suffer.

Any questions?

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Shows and movies don't need to have demographics similar to the real world population. You are assuming that the actors are cast based on skin colour and gender, which is a faulty and ignorant assumption.

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all the diversity hires are nobodies and after that show/movie they go on to do nothing else too. it's extremely hard to find a charismatic actor, you can't just pick it due to demographic or nepotism.

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Don't you think bad writing and lack of originality are more damaging to Hollywood than diversity and inclusion? Do you think every movie would be a critically acclaimed box office hit if they all starred straight white men?

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you're right scripts do suck now but they suck even more because the story has to be written around the diversity hire and woke script. why are there so many perfectly strong female lead where all the men are incompetent stories coming out?

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There are some good female led films, just like there are good and bad male led films.

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When racism is used to choose which actors play which parts, it’s certainly safe to assume the same racists used their same bigotry to choose the writers.

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make movie or show for a minority group (black, gay, w/e).
watch it flop.
call everyone racist/sexist/homophobic.
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rinse and repeat until it works?

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bingo.......

but it won't work..... that's the kicker!

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almost. use a well established ip with a huge fanbase, THEN woke cast that shit. if they woke cast a new ip, it would instantly go in the shitter.

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i concur

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