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People who saw it how was Jonathan Rhys Meyers


What is his part. Did you enjoy it?

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He is a rich guest of the hotel.

If I told you that he has 5 lines at most in the film, I would not be exaggerating. He is completely and totally non-existent here. No kidding....you won't even notice him at all.

It is so small, minute really....that I have to wonder if he had a bigger part at one point and it was cut down during the editing process.

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Too bad. But thanks for replying

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didn~t his male companion wake up naked in the beginning of the film?
was that an allusion to another gay relationship in the movie, and perhaps adding another layer of significance?

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I don't know if it was implying a relationship so much as showing how decadent and unconcerned with money the guests were in comparison to the workers.

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Meyers' role was very brief, and yes, he spends the night with a man who wakes up the next morning in his birthday suit.

He joined the project because of his friendship with Close and the great cast. I don't think he minded having a small part in this regard.



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He called his male roommate "Bunny." Not to mention that both men went to the costume ball dressed as women, and their lady friends dressed as men.

I think both the dudes were in a gay romance, and their lady friends were acting as their "covers," but I'm sure all were very close.

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I don't think his role was diminished in the editing room; I simply think he wanted to be in a good movie with a good director and a good cast. When you get offered something like this, and you know just by reading the screenplay that it's got Oscar written all over it, as an actor you want to be a part of that, even if you're only in a couple scenes or so.

On a brighter note for those with crushes on him, he does appear in one scene with his shirt undone in the morning after partying all night, searching the room for leftover champagne.

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This reminds me of Ben Whishaw in that movie The International, blink and you miss it.

Except this looks like a slightly bigger part.

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Good answer, Movie-Jay! :)

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Searching, and finding that champagne, Movie-Jay. I agree about his appearing in the movie, too. There are no small parts (as they say) and he is part of a great cast here so it's a no-lose situation. And, maybe his participation will bring in people, to see him, who might otherwise have not bothered.

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I think he may have had another motivation as well. The funding for this film slipped through several times. The film was more likely to get investors and to eventually get made if someone of his caliber was attached to it. If he believed in the film, it may not have mattered how big or small his part was. He may have wanted to help the filmmakers get their project made.

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To clear this up a bit, I just saw Albert Nobbs at the Virginia Film Festival (amazing! met mia!) and this very question was asked. Bonnie Curtis and Julie Lynn were on hand to clear this up. Apparently Meyers and the fella who played his male companion played Close's sons in another film. They became close friends and Glenn called them up and they agreed immediately because of the amazing cast. They were also excited about filming in Ireland.

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I just saw the movie and it was kind of distracting to see him in a role that was almost nonexistent. then again, strange movie but janet mcteer is is just awesome!

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Forget Jonathan Rhys Meyers, glenn close was fantastic, his part was small and insignificant.

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Who cares? He's a minor hunk with no talent to speak of. If you want to watch a movie, you'd better choose according to plot than look for "hotties" connected enough to get such unnecessary parts to try to salvage their dying careers. Just my 0.2

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You're so right that this isn't the type of movie you seek out for "hotties" but I have to disagree with you here about JRM's talent. He was excellent in The Tudors and is a fascinating, intense actor to watch. I imagine his personal problems are the only thing standing between him and huge stardom. The Tudors should have led to much more. I hope he sorts himself out because he really is quite good.

But that's just my two cents, too. ;)

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I don't even remember him at all. I think he appeared 5 seconds in the begining and 5 seconds in the middle of the film... that was all .

He was a casual client of the hotel where Glenn Close character worked. Aaron Johnson playing a co-worker of Nobbs had a more pivotal role in the movie.

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He barely had a cameo, but he is a good actor. See him in Woody Allen's "Match Point," an amazing film--totally un-Woody-- that should have gotten much more attention than it did. And he was fine in "The Tudors," even though he was not the right physical type for the role. I did not know that he was having "personal problems." What are they? The usual drink and drugs?

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***** SPOILERS *****

He appears now and then as a guest in the hotel but his character has more significance in the subtext of the film. From the scene in his bedroom where his male friend is naked in his bed and his last lines in the film about the key for the door between the 2 bedrooms, I understand that he's gay or bisexual, but that his wealth allows him to get away with it. His character outlines the social differences between the servant's and the painter's sexual identity (i.e. Albert Nobbs and Mr Page) and the Vicount's sexuality that he doesn't need to hide as much as the members of the lower class need to. During the fancy dress ball, he and his male friend come dressed as women and have no problem about it. They're having a good time while their servant Nobbs is standing by the wall waiting to serve the guests. That's quite an interesting paradox.

The film is not only about a woman dressed as a man; it's also about how to survive in the 19th century where it was hard to find a job and where poorer people were badly treated and considered, and even humiliated by the aristocracy and the bourgeoisie (remember the scene when Aaron Johnson loses his first job at the beginning of the film).

The Vicount's life is easy because he's got a title and money. He lives in the same hotel as Albert but he doesn't have as many problems as Albert to hide his secret.


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Well, he wasn't a drunken racist...so I guess he was good.

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