I was rooting for Erik


He was like modern day Malcom X. He was for the people. He wasn’t evil at all. Not compared to the other marvel villains.

reply

yes, he wanted "his" country and his people to take their rightful place in the world order. He loved his nationality above all other countries and other people, and he was ready to pay the ultimate price. I hear he even wanted to build an autobahn, expand to the east and get more lebensraum. Onhellofaguy, just misunderstood?

reply

As much as I want to agree that he wasn’t evil, killing his girlfriend to get to his enemy and showing zero remorse was unforgivable. And it seems he would kill anyone that stood in his way.

Having said that, he is a villain who you (by “you” I mean many well-meaning people that can see his point of view) can’t help but agree with so much with what he says. It wasn’t just revenge he was seeking. He had his heart set in the right place and wished to spread Wakanda’s wealth and power to those who had experienced injustice in the world like himself; mainly his fellow Africans. He also wanted to stop oppression and use Wakanda technology to help liberate his people. Making progress was essentially his goal. The problem is, he went about things the wrong way... his methods were brutal and he ultimately became consumed by hate.

However, all of this made him a complex and truly sympathetic villain with a sense of purpose. Comparing him to X and knowing many of the things he said about his people being wronged will surely rub some people the wrong way (whether they have an agenda against Black Panther or not). But you know what, this character preached a lot of truth. So bottom line: he was an incredible villain whose reasons for world domination were deeper than many other comic villains... yet at the end of the day he did some unjustifiable things and got carried away.

reply

Erik wanted armed revolution to topple governments around the world starting with New York, London and Hong Kong... His plan was evil...

It's the antithisis of democratic values and such... He wanted the opressed to gain their right through chaos and hegemony... The results of which we've already seen in Iraq, Syria, Libya and such as recent examples...

Yeah, i get where he was coming from and such, but there is more than a subtle diffdrence between him and Malcolm X, even though the latter did appreciate the nature of power and force...

reply


Agree he's a villain, but I have to admit I teared up a little at the end, when he was talking about his father's promise to show him Wakanda, "you b'lee dat?"

He was a grown-up, responsible for his own action, but he was also very much a product of his environment: abandoned by his royal family, trained by the U.S. to be a ruthless killer and black ops tactician, as long as he was useful to us.

Added to which, he had a legitimate claim to the throne and won it (almost) by the book.

Great performance by Jordan

reply

He wasn't for the people,only his people. He said "people who look like us" in regards to suffering around the world. Sorry,but lots of people of all colors get shit on in this world.

reply

Me too. He had the right intentions and everything he was saying was RIGHT....but he was just too clouded by hate to execute it well.

reply