Unsympathetic protagonist


I honestly didn’t end up if finding Django to be a very sympathetic character. I mean… considering all he had suffered through, why didn’t he care for others. His one-sighted focus on the purely selfish rescue of his wife was just mean. I understand that he had a mission, goal and purpose in mind. One which he was dedicated towards achieving. But his cruelty to the other slave man in the exact circumstance he used to be in, was just unacceptable in my opinion. I understand he had to put up a front and play a character, but he apart from just abandoning the stray 3 spaces out in the desert, he went out of his way to add to the plight and misery of any black slaves he came into contact with.

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I mean, plus he also so readily kills the Aussie blokes. Despite them having not mistreated him or hindered him. Together they could’ve shot up candyland. Why did he have to do that alone? Django just isn’t a good guy.

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Django just isn’t a good guy.


I guess the answer to that is walk a mile in his shoes.

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I’d hope that even then I’d been able to retain some empathy and consideration for the welfare of others. Otherwise, human ambition for future greater morality is pointless

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Getting back to the film, IMO, the Aussies weren't much better than the overseers at Candyland. They only reason they set him free was to use him collect the bounties.


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I have a feeling they weren't going to let him just walk afterwards, either...

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Yep. They would have had little reason to let him walk.. Django asked for $500 and freedom, but after they collected the money, what legal recourse if any did Django have if the Aussies reneged? They could have collected the money, kept Django's cut, and returned Django to the mines.

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The "Aussie Guys" are the slavers who are taking Django and the others in the cage to their mines to work them to absolute death in the most horrible conditions possible. This was the fate worse than death that Stephen orchestrated for Django. Django wasn't randomly killing three easily-duped rascals who could have helped him, he was taking out the trash.

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I know that. But they personally hadn’t mistreated him. And the way their ignorance plays off, it’s almost like they’ve just been hired as transportation lackies. Not slaver enforcement muscle. So they might not have been irredeemable guys.
Even so, Django just isn’t a good guy.

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They were slavers. They were taking people to be thrown into mining pits until they died. Yes, they come off as a bit silly, and that's a fun bit of writing on Tarantino's part, but I'm not going to excuse the KKK earlier in the movie because of the very funny bags-on-heads conversation they have. Likewise, these mining jagoffs are either sadistic or apathetic towards committing atrocities for a buck.

Irredeemable is a bit different. I'm sorta with Tolkien on that one. However, expediency in Django suggests that he needs to take them out.

Your statement, "Django just isn't a good guy," confuses me. What does he do that's bad?

SPOILERS BELOW

He kills slavers, the hired muscle of slavers, and evil and wicked people (Stephen, e.g.). The most morally ambiguous thing he does in the movie is bounty hunting, and even that is basically serving as an arm of law enforcement.

I'd argue that, at the beginning of the film, Dr. Schultz is more grey in his morality. He has a beautiful plot arc where he starts as eccentric, goofy, loves his job, but is generally apathetic towards good and evil in the world and ends as somebody who is deeply troubled by the wrongdoing he sees and is forced to act on his convictions. All of this is well-written and beautifully-played, of course.

I'll grant you that Django is more single-minded and has less of an arc in that sense, but he's a cool-cat stoic hero type. Yes, he mostly cares about getting his wife back, but the goal he has in mind and the carnage he inflicts is the same as that of characters like Liam Neeson in Taken.

Now, if you can remember something Django does that makes him so he "just isn't a good guy," I'll reconsider.

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if he just repeats "he isnt the good guy" is that not a good enough argument?

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He is mean to slaves in his presence. He intervenes to prevent Schultz from purchasing to save a slaves life. Doesn’t bat an eye while dogs tear that slave apart. While he doesn’t personally commit any depraved atrocities, he doesn’t use his new free and financially prosperous platform to aid other suffering African American slaves. Anything he does is purely selfishly driven. With such a crazed singleminded intensity, that everything he ends up doing and committing just leads he and his wife’s life to a hopeless, desperate, destitute, fearful and hunted state.

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The examples that you are citing (prevents purchase, prevents saving) are because if Schultz blows their cover, they will all be torn apart.

He uses his freedom to raid Candyland. He uses his freedom to save the other slaves who were captured by the Aussies.

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if a nazi didnt personally mistreat someone, it doesnt make them a good person because they were nice to 1. and even then they were solely motivated by the money and happy to transport him and others to their horrible fate.

you repeating "django isnt the good guy" doesnt make it so

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I’ll agree on your first point. And Django still isn’t a good guy.

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cool story.

you repeating "django isnt the good guy" doesnt make it so

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