I bought the DVD for the Raid 2 and i had to watch it about 3 times. This is surely the best action flick i have seen in a long time. The action was intense and non-stop, hardly anytime to hold my breath.
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In my opinion, yes. It is without a doubt, one of the best action films that currently exists. I can't think of any other movie that tops it, as far as action and fighting goes.
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It was a great movie (but no ROAD WARRIOR)
share"Ip Man" comes to mind. It is a superior movie.
shareyes it is i think. the first one is great too but this one is even better
shareNo way, the Raid movies are fight porn in a loose movie wrapper.
They don’t compare to the Die Hard trilogy or other great action thrillers like Under Siege, Cliffhanger and Air Force One. Those are proper movies with memorable characters, charm, wit, tension, a story.
Raid 1 is better overall because of the single location and tight structure, but is let down by poor picture quality.
Raid 2 looks incredible and probably has better fights overall, but it’s as if Evans wanted to have a go at making The Godfather with occasional fight porn, so it’s all stretched out over a bloated 2.5 hour undercover cop/gangster mini-epic.
They are amazing martial arts films but little more.
Agreed 100%.
The fight porn also didn't feel as evocative or as immersive as movies like We Own The Night, where you were really rooting for the main character even though his odds of survival were slim to none.
Yep, Rama was such a badass who dispatches scores of enemies with such ease that you never really fear for his life, he just pulverises someone then levels up and pulverises the next, nobody lands any kind of meaningful blow. A bit like Steven Seagal in that sense.
In the first film he has a massive fight with the big bad, but it’s made even easier for him because his brother teams up with him. It’s 2 on 1 so even less tension.
In 2 he defeats the psycho twins with their hammers and baseball bat, which is pretty impressive, then the final boss is just one guy who he beats senseless for 15 minutes before cutting him open.
The fights are incredible but the storytelling is meh. The dumbest thing was having the brother’s head blown off in the first few minutes. That was the only relationship of consequence from the first film and Evans immediately flushes it down the toilet so he can do his Donnie Brasco With Fights ‘epic’.
2 should have been another siege scenario with urgency and a ticking clock. You can still bring drama and interesting characters into tight action movies, but don’t mistake them for epic dramas.
I’d like to have seen a third film but Evans seems to have lost interest 🤷🏻♂️
I can't disagree with anything you've written.
1000% agreed about the mishandling of Rama's brother at the beginning of Raid 2. It was senseless and completely deflated my care for anything that happened in the film.
That brutal kitchen fight with the one guy was kind of interesting as Rama had to learn to adapt and evolve in the fight, but I didn't really care because it's not like we had any reason to understand why Rama suddenly became Bruce Lee/Donnie Yen in that fight other than he just did. One thing I like about Donnie Yen films is that he usually sets up the logic and story of the fights perfectly.
For instance, in Flashpoint he's a cop who's brutal with a temper and brawls using a lot of Jiu-Jitsu. So it made sense at the end that in the fight with Collin Chow we had Collin being the faster and more precise striker while Yen's character focused on counters and submission-holds, just until they both got tired and then Yen went into beast mode, but without changing his character's fight profile, if that makes sense. Same with Special ID, IP Man, and SPL Killzone.
But meh, I'm way off on a tangent. Anyway, yeah I would have preferred if The Raid 2 was a lot more consistent and coherent with what it wanted to be. It was basically like a fight-porn version of the South Korean film New World, the latter of which was VASTLY superior as it did the Donnie Broscoe thing better than Donnie Broscoe thanks to its chess-like approach to the storytelling and character development.
yes it is amazing, as is the first
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