When do you think it will really start to set in? On a large scale I mean.
I always thought it was a risky strategy to saturate the market with so many films. Sure the Star Wars fans might see them but would the general public really go for so much Star Wars? Now it seems part of the strategy is to alienate the original Star Wars fans. Maybe they just don't have a strategy at all...
I think it already starting to creep its way in now. With the disappointment of this film, and if Han Solo next year is a bomb. That is going to do some serious damage. If they do a live action TV series as well as putting out a new film each year. It won't take long. Especially if they don't keep the quality up.
I've seen it happen with Star Trek back in the 90's. I remember when it was at it's height of popularity in the early 90's. You had TNG on TV, Star Trek 6 in theatres, and DS9 on it's way to TV.
Then the TNG movies got off on a bad start with Generations, Voyager came out and was a week series. Then DS9 got over shadowed. Then Enterprise came out, and that series had no steam at all.
Disney is doing the same thing with Star Wars. How long it will take I'm not sure.
I'm sure you are right. It's not like Disney has shown itself to be be a studio that plans ahead for it's franchises and successfully executes those plans. I much prefer Warner Brothers who gave us the uninspired Harry Potter filmed novels and the visionary DC universe that now only exists because a lone talented director came along and made a good Wonder Woman movie.
shareTheir "plan" seems to be to squeeze as many dollars out of the Star Wars name as they can, as fast as possible. It's a woefully shortsighted strategy. They literally didn't even have a plan in place for the trilogy and just started pumping out the films...
shareI didn't realize you were Kennedy or part of Disney's development team. My apologies.
shareSo setting up a bunch of plot threads in the first movie and then throwing them all in the garbage in the second one, was all part of a cunning master plan I suppose?
shareI'm not the one claiming to know.
shareAnd around and around it goes! Ladies and gentlemen I give you... the Dance of the Trolls.
shareWhat's trollish is claiming you have knowledge that is nothing more than speculation and opinion. Disney certainly had a release schedule plan, they hired directors and screenwriters for something. Disney clearly plans Marvel films. PIXAR doesn't seem to be running off the cuff. Why would you assume that Disney has no plan based on your disappointment? Maybe the plan is not to have a plan and let the directors realize their visions and Kennedy's vision.
I don't know and I don't care but I'm not going to invest time and energy second guessing people and processes I know nothing about. And I am going to let those who do know, I think they are fools.
I don't need any special insider knowledge to know there's something wrong in Disney's Star Wars division. I saw the proof with my own eyes. I paid $10 to see that piece of crap. Having suffered through it I can't help but wonder WHY it was such a piece of crap. Evidence strongly suggests a rushed production schedule, incoherent leadership, and an unwise decision to shoehorn political agendas into a fantasy science fiction film.
shareWell if you paid $10 and saw the "proof" with your "own eyes" that's all I really need. The lesson of Poe's character arc was clearly lost on you but that's not your fault. It was " such a piece of crap" with "a rushed production schedule, incoherent leadership" and political agendas that it flew right over your head like an X-wing on its way to blow up something.
shareThat was sad. You're barely even trying.
shareWhat's sad is you publicly nursing your disappointment and trying to play studio mogul from your home.
shareThen isn't it even sadder you would actually spend time trying to rebut me? LOL
shareYou just happen to be the only one posting right now. I'm not as invested in this as much as you are fantasizing. I'll be quiet now so you can get back to figuring out how TLJ turned out to be something other than what you wanted.
shareI don't think it has anything to do with production problems. I just think Disney is incapable of telling anymore original stories with this without making anything that came before it seem incoherent. The best has already been done, now this is all we're left with.
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They are basically treating it like a second Marvel Cinematic Universe/Pixar. The MCU and Pixar both release 1 or 2 movies every year. Unfortunately, they are going to make a killing making bland movies riddled with plot holes and there is nothing we can do about it
shareNothing we can do about it? How about not watching them? The magic is gone with Star Wars since they threw logic out of the window. I want more than explosions.
shareWell yeah, us film buffs and Star Wars fans should do that, but the vast majority of casual moviegoing audiences are gonna keep eating this shit up
shareIt's hard to say. If they assiduously tick every box on the list of "appeal factors" they could keep making them for a long time. If enough individual fans wake up to the "conveyor belt production" of films and resist the marketing then maybe we will see a slow down in the pace and energy behind the production of new SW films.
After the third film of the original trilogy a decision was made not to produce another film in the series. The story was deemed complete and I think George Lucas wanted to go on to other things. There was no impetus to produce prequels or sequels at that time it seems. Also, I think the audience in general had had enough of Star Wars but of course hardcore fans continued to be avidly interested. Will the pattern repeat itself today where after the third installment of the sequels the public signal a waining interest and the additional trilogies in the works will receive lesser interest and reduced box office takings? Unless the general public are invested in Rey, etc. and the studio's vision for more character arcs I don't see a sustained effort at putting out more material. If that's the case then I'm pretty sure that by 2023 we'll probably will see the end of the current Star Wars generation of films.
We haven't hit super hero fatigue yet. We get one star wars film a year. Alienation was not their stradegy and yes clearly they are writing the movies one at a time instead of envisioning a whole story arc which often makes trilogies seem forced. I'm thinking of another alien franchise that seems to be doing the same thing. :/
"We haven't hit super hero fatigue yet. We get one star wars film a year."
The difference is that superhero films are different enough that they can appeal to different audiences. There are people who love GotG who don't really care about other comic films, and so on. But so far Disney Star Wars all feels the same.
Super hero films are further along the fatigue scale then star wars. The box office alone is showing that.
shareIt's gonna start with Han Solo. Releasing a new Star Wars film just a few months after the last one is ridiculous. You can just barely keep things special as an annual affair. People love doing stuff once a year. That's why we got holidays.
But I think it's clear Disney means to release two films a year, with at least one live action and one animated show on the airwaves, interactive phone games, you name it.
The fatigue set in for me watching this movie.
shareFatigue? No way... it's just getting started...
I know young parents who are non-star wars fans, yet their only question is what order to rewatch the previous movies... Disney dictates how people raise their kids... it's the new Star Wars way...