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Anyone else think this is the worst Star Wars movie?

posted 4 years ago by BurningSun (717)
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Most people here think episode 8 is the worst, and it was, but after some thought I now think episode 9 is actually the worst Star Wars movie. It’s great on a technical level, but everywhere else if false flat and then some. It’s a complete clusterfuck and bastardization that’s supposed to be the bookend to one of the largest franchises of all time. It’s bloated, overly complicated, riddled with plotholes and inconsistencies, and is an absolute disaster in terms of storytelling. It erases stuff not only established in other Star Wars movies, but just the previous film before it.

8 is terrible. It actually somewhat redeems Episode 8 a bit for me, because at least Rian Johnson tried doing something with the nothing of the story JJ Abrams haphazardly undertossed to him. Why was Luke hiding on some planet? Not Johnson’s fault that Abrams wrote him to be there without reason in Episode 7.

Sad. Adjusted for inflation, it’s the 2nd lowest grossing main Star Wars film, only beaten by Episode 2.

Who else declares this be the worst?

[–] DarkKnight (262) 4 years ago

Worst one by far. Way worse than Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.

At least those movies had consistency. This had nothing. The entire sequel trilogy is a mess, and had no proper roadmap.

Star Wars 1-6, Rogue One, The Mandalorian, and Solo are all part of the Star Wars canon.

Star Wars 7-9 are non-canon spinoffs, and don't exist as far as I'm concerned.

[–] furiousstyles (4364) 4 years ago

Id rather watch these than the prequels, and its explained by Han why he is isolated on a planet in TFA

[–] janelsenor (2042) 4 years ago

No. The Phantom Menace, Revenge of the Sith, and Solo all vie for that position....

[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

I couldn't believe Solo was about "young solo" because how many fucking times are they going to do that?

No one wants to see Young Indiana Jones, or Solo, or anyone. We want to see the adult character doing adult things.

I had hoped for years that Sawyer from Lost would get either Solo or Indiana. Instead, they cast a short guy with a big head who looks a little like ford. It was weird.

[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

The first prequel was the worst.

It wasn't his fault but casting children to play advanced roles is always horrible, so the kid was terrible.

Midaclorines (whatever) were horrible. Since The force is the life force it is in everyone and so the previous assumption is that anyone can feel it and anyone could be a Jedi. They then use this "genetic" thing to make being a Jedi racist like some kind of royalty that's "born that way" and are superior.

The Qui Jin Jedi (I don't know how to spell his name or the actors, lol!) says to Jar Jar that just because he can talk doesn't mean he's intelligent, which is what white people said about blacks back in slavery times, they are talking monkeymen. That was a FUCKING SHOckEr!! Weird 1700s racist comments, again about genetics, from a Jedi.

How could you be a Jedi and dismiss another being like that?

The trade aliens sounded Japanese and were involved in sneakiness, stereotype of Asians.

Jar Jar was absolutely heinous and another weird black stereotype of the black coward idiot. That was a popular black comedian routine at the time how white horror movie characters walk into danger calmly while a black guy would go crazy.

That whole movie was a shocking mess of fucked up ideas.

[–] janelsenor (2042) 4 years ago

Jake Lloyd was actually a decent actor, but Lucas just sucked at directing kids.

[–] TheAdlerian (2092) 4 years ago

Yes.

The same goes for the actor who played him as a young man.

The character is supposed to be a genius and extremely tortured, like a genius version or Adolf Hitler, with superpowers. It would take a very worldly person to understand that character, even if an adult played him. It would then take a psychological genius to be able to explain that to a kid and/or pampered young person, and then get them to act like super Hitler.

It's just too much and that's why the actors sound like they were reading their lines. They couldn't supply the needed emotion because the character is too complex.

[–] christomacin (4575) 4 years ago

I think virtually everything that has been done with Star Wars after 1983 (except for Rogue One and The Clone Wars series for the most part) has diminished the legacy of Star Wars. This includes the Ewok specials, the "Special Editions", the prequels, and the sequels. There is plenty of blame to go around for the decline of Star Wars. What really disappointed me about Lucas selling Star Wars to Disney was the fact that the Clone Wars (in my mind at least) was so well done that it went a long way towards redeeming Lucas in my eyes after decades of mediocrity...then he sold out to Disney and guys like Filoni (who should have been his successor at a still-independent Lucasfilm) got sidelined. Now that Disney has fouled up Star Wars in their own right we find the franchise in a strange position, in which neither "parent" (George Lucas OR Disney) has much credibility left in the "custody battle" for the soul of Star Wars. Only if Disney is willing or able to turn the Star Wars clock back to the promising post-prequel/pre-sequel era in which Lucas had stepped back somewhat was still the final arbiter until as successor was firmly in place, I believe this decline will only continue. I simply don't believe it is possible with Disney from what I've seen so far. I'm somewhat ambivalent about The Mandalorian.

[–] triplea (3577) 4 years ago

It's the worst since it's barely recognizable as a SW film. If it didn't have lightsabers in it no-one would even know.