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The show is stupid to me.


How could the loss 2 percent of the population have any real impact?.....other than sadness for the families directly involved......If you lost 2 out of 100 people---you would still have 98 people.....it wouldn't be apocalyptic. I can't get into the show. Just my opinion.

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If 2% of the worlds population DISAPPEARED without explanation, people would never stop talking about it. It is shown in the show that the world still goes on, people still do their job, but having no closure for losing that 2% would have everlasting affects.

You was my brother, Charley. You shoulda looked out for me a little bit. - Terry Malloy

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It is not only about loosing a loved one. It is for a lot of people, realizing that god exists and experiencing the end of time.

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Why would that prove God existed?

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Because this story is written in the bible.

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This is not the rapture dude.

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How do you know? Because the Four Horsemen haven't shown up yet?

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It is for a lot of people, realizing that god exists and experiencing the end of time.



Either one of two things;

1) You're not watching the show; or

2) You're watching the show with the comprehension of a 5th grader.

Which is it?


Nothing like being the minority to make FoxNews concerned about rights of the minority

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Try to get the big picture and stop the arrogance as well, thank you.

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"And then I tweaked it by making it random, rather than the Christian Rapture, so that it was as much of a challenge to Christians as it was to non-believers. And once I did that in my own mind, it started to seem like a really interesting existential allegory."

Tom Perrotta (the author)

So, see? It's not proof of god, the rapture or anything else you think you are entitled to.


Nothing like being the minority to make FoxNews concerned about rights of the minority

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The rapture is proof of god for some people, like the guilty remnants... Not for me, but "in the show"......

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The rapture is proof of god



There is no PROOF of god....that's why they call it FAITH.



Nothing like being the minority to make FoxNews concerned about rights of the minority

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Don't cut my words like that. The rapture is proof of god FOR SOME people I wrote. You are ridiculous to do what you do. I stop to reply to you after this one.

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The rapture


Yeah, but this isn't a Rapture.


Nothing like being the minority to make FoxNews concerned about rights of the minority

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Yes and some interesting patterns on a piece of toast are proof of god for some people.

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Less than 2 per cent of the world's population dies each YEAR. IBasically it might be only 2 in 100 but that is about 70 million people all gone in one event. When you consider how much attention any natural disaster that kills even hundreds of people gets in the media etc, I think 70 million people all inexplicably disappearing as though by some act of God all at the same time would have a significant and long lasting impact. It's not that the world can't go on without those people, it's that it is such a huge thing to have happened humans completely change the way they think about the world, society, religion etc.

Think about how much the world changed since 9/11 - if this mass disappearance happened you can imagine how much the world would change afterwards.

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Again, yes, there is an impact. It might even be disruptive in the short term.

And, the world did change a great deal in the wake of 9/11 as perceived in many quarters - but at the level of political fiat. Most people not New Yorkers (and many of them too) and not directly emotionally impacted shook their heads at the senseless loss and horror and went back on with their lives.

And, that would be true even in this case. Time heals all wounds and the lack of anything else "miraculous" happening in the wake of the original incident would help speed that process.


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The crazy thing is that 100 million + people disapeared out of thin air. No explanation. Neither science or religion can explain it.

If even just one person i knew literally disapeared out of thin air, i would probably think about it for the rest of my life.

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Yes - you might think about that person disappearing for a while after - especially if there was some emotional or familial attachment.

But would you stop living and working to think about that person?

Would you join a cult to terrorize people into remembering your vanished acquaintance?

Would you be so absorbed with concern that you might also disappear one day that you would withdraw from normal life?

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Yes - you might think about that person disappearing for a while after - especially if there was some emotional or familial attachment.

But would you stop living and working to think about that person?


So if you had a family member or close friend literally blink out of existence in front of your eyes, you'd just go "Ehh, Tuesdays?" and then go back to what you were doing?

This isn't a person going missing or dying. It's an inexplicable worldwide phenomenon where almost 150 million people spread out over the face of the Earth were there one second and gone the next.

Would you join a cult to terrorize people into remembering your vanished acquaintance?

Would you be so absorbed with concern that you might also disappear one day that you would withdraw from normal life?


The show displays a wide variety of responses.

-Plenty of people do try to move on with their lives, that's why the characters aren't living in an apocalyptic wasteland, because there are people doing their jobs and living their lives 3 years after the sudden departure.

-Some people join cults, these cults claim to have an answer. With so many to choose from, there's a cult for everyone emotionally damaged enough to seek them out. With religion not having an answer, and science not having an answer, these cults prey on people's own nagging thoughts and give them something to believe in.

-Some people focus all of their efforts on a specific purpose. With such a mindblowing event like this, they set a goal and dedicate their life to it because they feel this is more important than their old life.

-Some people try to hold onto the past, stick to their routine, and hope everything will go back to normal one day.

-Some people decide to live their life to the fullest, take chances, and have fun after the randomness and spontaneity of the sudden departure.

-Some people fall into self-destructive behavior, either because they feel emotionally numb after whatever loss they've experienced, or because they just don't care about the consequences.

-Some people faked their departure, either to reinvent themselves or to get away from something, and there are likely others who killed someone and covered it up as a departure.

There's no one-size-fits-all response to an instantaneous global event.

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For the most part - everybody seems to be wallowing in self-pity and fear - even those not directly impacted by the Event.

I guess that's needed to squeeze multiple seasons out of such thin material.

But its not all that credible.

You know - we all will disappear into the Unknown at some point - we all live under the threat of our frailty and human mortality. Many of us have experienced the loss of family members or friends - all of us will as we age - and then we lose ourselves as well.

Some who have gone through loss never recover; they're broken by it. May even take their own lives in response.

But the vast majority of us, faced with these Disappearances and the knowledge that one day we too will also Disappear from the world, we go on.

We don't act out.

We don't join cults (depends on how you view organized religion, I guess).

We have hope.

We work for a future we may not even see.

We don't wallow.

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Yeah well we understand what happened there

I would say my memory is not what it used to be. But I don't remember what my memory used to be.

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2% of 7billion is 140 million. Dang, thats a lot of people man!

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It's not only the loss of 1 in 50 people, but how it occurred. If the world had concrete answers, I don't think these religious sects would be as prevalent. Same with the grief, self-doubt, etc...

We've met before, haven't we?

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Sorry but no it would not be a big deal, do i see people now everywhere crying and make a lot of problems, because every year 55.3 million people die each year?

No, so why would 100+ million people dying be a big problem, no i think maybe only in the beginning and then 1 a 3 years later life will go on.

http://www.ecology.com/birth-death-rates/


And if it was a real Rapture it would be MUCH more then 2% of the world population, only in China live about 67+ million Christians, in the whole world about 2.2 billion Christians live, about 32% of the whole world.

http://www.pewforum.org/2011/12/19/global-christianity-exec/

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No, so why would 100+ million people dying be a big problem
Do you hear yourself? Read what you're typing and think about how stupid it sounds.

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Mao killed about 78 million people in china, did you knew that?

Air Pollution Causes 4,400 Deaths In China Every Single Day, did you knew that?

Do you know that every 40 seconds a child goes missing in the U.S.?

Did you know, when a child goes missing, the first 3 hours are the most crucial in finding the child safely. Approximately 76.2% of abducted children who are murdered are dead within three hours of the abduction?

Did you know that in 1980, roughly 150,000 people were reported missing per year. Now the number is 900,000, and that is only in the U.S.

And MUCH much more, most people don't know about, but you all get the point i think.




Most people never ever heard of it, so for them it was no big deal because nobody new it.

So if 100 million people disappears from earth every ware, then almost no one would know it, if it happens in only one country, then yes every one would know it.

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"So if 100 million people disappears from earth every ware, then almost no one would know it"

What a lot effort expended for nothing.

#1, you're basically saying, "The premise of this show shouldn't exist." There'd be no show or novel without it. Sometimes people are creative. I know it's tough for a mind of such rigidity to accept.

#2, great Googled stats. Now, which one of them addresses people who literally vanished in front of other people instantaneously. That's the only thing that matters. If people all over the world had people vanish from normal everyday situations in enclosed areas, then yes-- we'd all hear about it.

Perhaps that's unfortunate we're all so accustomed to what we encounter in the real world but nothing like a an unsolvable magic trick or riddle to get people asking how, where and why.

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That would be about 140,000,000 people worldwide. It huge phenomenon that no one knows how it happened or what it means. When like 100 people die of a new type of flu people freak the *beep* out. If one and 40 million people disappeared randomly I think it would affect people.

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