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Why does Hollyweird want us cheering for the villains?


...instead of the heroes, now? "Malificent","Cruella", "Birds of Prey", Suckicide Squad.

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And they made sure to tell us how Anti-American Harley Quinn was, also how America takes the place of Nazis.

Good point man

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Oh kay man

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You obviously didn't watch the movie

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This type of post is the 2021 equivalent of old people in the 60s-80s saying that Rock music was about Devil worship (yes, I did capitalize Devil because I worship Him)

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OP is stuck in the 1950s. I bet he'd like to see the return of the Hays code.

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I guess the rest of the world who skipped this movie and caused it to flop are stuck in the 50s with me, LMFAO!

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How come they didn't skip Joker?

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What year did the character, Joker, first appear in comics?

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What's your point? That you old geezers will abandon your morals for a bit of nostalgia?

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Run along now, toddler, adults are talking.

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Nice comeback. It only took you an hour to come up with it xD

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In Birds of Prey, only one of them was a villain. As for Suicide Squad, the concept is several decades old and not nearly a new trend in comic-based franchises. It's also not a trend in Hollywood since villain protagonists have been around as long as "talkies" have been around.

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I think (and I could be wrong) that OP's point is that the ratio of villain-worship to hero-worship has changed, and that Hollyweird is promoting more villains as "good guys" rather than good guys as "good guys".

It's not an insignificant point, to be honest. I, too, have noticed that Disney seems to have an infatuation with moralizing the villains in recent times.

Other studios seem to be following a similar pattern.

I think Suicide Squad wouldn't stand out so much if we didn't have so many other "assassins as heroes" in movies as of late, such as John Wick (which I actually like), Hotel Artemis, Protege, Anna, Ava, Lucy, Kate, Jolt, Noir, and Gunpowder Milkshake, to name a few. I think many of them also forego any sort of moral turnabout that used to be the case for these films, like Leon: The Professional, or The Punisher, or Road To Perdition.

Movies like Crank really stood out when it first came out because there weren't many like it. But these days it seems like every other action film is about a female assassin.

Back in the day, we also had a lot of hero movies, (and not just the super hero kind) in addition to the traditional noir crime tales and action-thrillers. But heroes (outside of cape fare) seem to be in short supply these days.

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But hollywood always promoted the anti-hero types.

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I wouldn't so much say they always promoted the anti-hero type, so much as they used to always promote the underdog type (which is usually the category that Stallone or Willis' characters fell into).

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Like have been already say Villains as protagonist is no something new in fact villains and antiheros are of the most popular and memorable protagonist in movie story, Tyler Durden, Joker, Alex Delarge, Scarface, The Corleone family all of the are interesting, Walter White. Dexter

Is even older in literature, Crime and punishment, Madame Bovary, and many others

Villains and antiheros are old as dirt

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JohnSpartan embarrassing himself as usual.

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The answer is Because modern Hollywood are low lifes who only relate to villains and villainous behavior. Duh!

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Way to completely ignore AP’s and kungfulord’s posts, idiot.

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You obviously have an agenda you think is important to pursue which only serves to show how shallow your thinking is.

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Bill Bennett declared a decade ago that the culture war was lost. He was correct of course, and the deterioration of society only continues to increase. When anyone points out any instances of this they are declared as being "stuck in the past" like the first few posts here.

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Exactly. This propaganda is Mao's Cultural Revolution in the west.

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Har-dee-har-har

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I mean, if the culture war is lost, then anyone wanting to keep fighting ARE stuck in the past, yeah?

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When the real-life ruling regime is corrupt and inept, anti-heroes become popular. With the bosses we have now in Washington, expect lots more of these films to be made.

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