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"Anti-American propaganda"


That's what the latest episode (the one focused on the Korean girl) would have gotten called in the past.
As someone who grew up watching 90's American movies where the military were portrayed in an uncritical, propagandist, savior manner, it was a breath of fresh air seeing them in an opposite light.

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I’m not sure I’d call it a “breath of fresh air” but as an American myself I’m sure we did stuff like that in our wars all the time, no matter what the engagement. Like it or not I’d be a fool to sit here & tell you the armed forces of my country were never guilty of that. Damn right they were, & I don’t care who says they weren’t.

To me it paints Tic in a bad light since he was going to shoot an unarmed civilian in the head whether she was guilty or not. He tries to justify this to Ji-ah by saying “she was a communist sympathizer” but we learn that she was not, & he knew that so there goes his argument. To me, again to me anyway, knowing he’d blindly follow orders to do something like that on behalf of a nation that was otherwise brutal to him & treated him like a citizen that had no rights is way out there thinking to me.

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Tic didn't kill the girl who was sympathetic to the communist cause. He killed the other INNOCENT girl, who had nothing to do with it, and who knew nothing that she could tell him about it, which also makes what he did even worse.

Because that means he KILLED someone for not telling him what it was he wanted to know (who also had no way to tell him what it was that he wanted to know).

And the way he did it also indicates that it wasn't the FIRST TIME he'd done this, but was probably something that he went around doing on a regular basis as a part of his JOB.

So his just FOLLOWING ORDERS EXCUSE also means that he was behaving pretty much the same way as any other NAZI did during WW2 when they went around killing other minority groups at that time.

So what lessons did we learn from WW2?

Apparently the lesson we learned was to behave like those that we fought against at that time???

And how does what TIC did differ from what's done to him by others back here in the STATES who see him as being a MINOIRITY???

Doesn't that also place him into a "DO as HE SAYS but NOT as HE DOES HIMSELF" kind of position???

One where he doesn't like BEING ABUSED by others who see themselves as being SUPERIOR to HIM, yet once he's there in KOREA he then proceeds to behave the same way or behave just as BADLY (or EVEN WORSE) to others as he's been treated by others back home???

When he SHOOTS that INNOCENT GIRL in the HEAD any kind of RESPECT that one previously had for TIC definitely just FLEW OUT the WINDOW.

He can claim he was "JUST DOING his JOB" if he likes, but isn't there also something called

"WAR CRIMES" as well (where one can also be held just as responsible for a case of WRONGFUL DEATH or MURDER as when one isn't a Soldier who is suppose to be doing one's "so called" duty) ???

For example, weren't other US soldiers also put on trial for killing several people in a VILLAGE in VIET NAM???


My Lai massacre - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre#War_crimes_investigation



The Mỹ Lai Massacre was the Vietnam War mass murder of unarmed South Vietnamese civilians by U.S. troops in Sơn Tịnh District, South Vietnam, on 16 March 1968. Between 347 and 504 unarmed people were killed by U.S. Army soldiers from Company C, 1st Battalion, 20th Infantry Regiment and Company B, 4th Battalion, 3rd Infantry Regiment, 11th Brigade, 23rd (Americal) Infantry Division.

Victims included men, women, children, and infants. Some of the women were gang-raped and their bodies mutilated, as were children as young as 12. Twenty-six soldiers were charged with criminal offenses, but only Lieutenant William Calley Jr., a platoon leader in C Company, was convicted. Found guilty of killing 22 villagers, he was originally given a life sentence, but served only three-and-a- ...



So apparently we learned NOTHING from the WAR in the 40's, went on to dish out the same kind of ABUSE to others as our ENEMIES did in the 50's, and then continued to keep on doing the same thing in the 60's ( and then we also continued to keep right on doing the same kind of things right up to the present time as we got involved in other situations)???

From this point forward, because of what he's done, imo, TIC has a lot to answer for. And if he's PLANNING on getting himself into the GARDEN of EDEN at some point, then he can probably also FORGET ABOUT IT. Because isn't it also suppose to be a place for those who are WITHOUT SIN???

If TIC HOOKS himself up to another machine like the one that he was HOOKED UP to before in the MANSION, then he'll most likely turn to STONE or to SALT just like the father of CHRISTINA did.

Or else maybe he'll BURN UP like we also saw him doing in his DREAM before he can ESCAPE while the place BURNS DOWN around him???

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Thank you, OP. I thought Jaime Chung was wonderful in this ep. I know a little bit about Korean culture, and they are an indomitable people, having survived two occupations, by China and Japan, and 1 “incursion” by us, the USA, and nonetheless emerged intact. I’ve not read the book that’s the basis for this series, so I don’t know to congratulate the author, the show runners or both, but, to me, this is an engaging and muti-leveled narrative that I enjoy.

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