Aimee's "assault"


A great example of the victim culture we currently live in.

At first after the incident although being a little startled she was fine and quite rational about the whole thing but her girlfriends kept pushing her until she broke and claimed her victimhood.

I mean don't get me wrong I'm not defending the guy, what he did was gross and wrong and all that but its not like Aimee was in any real danger. People who expose themselves like that in public are generally harmless, doing it just for the shock value and adrenaline kick.

Convincing Aimee that she is now some type of "survivor", in the same category as actual rape victims, only does more damage than good in my view. What exactly is the gain here, convincing her that something terrible happened to her?

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Wow...just, wow....you need to really re-think this post in so many ways and maybe even self-delete it. Wow...

But to hopefully educate you a bit, what you are missing is the evolution of how she perceived what happened to her at the start and how she later came to realize exactly what happened and how it was a sexual assault. And her friends only rightfully so taught her that she was a victim of an assault and that some male jizzing on someone's leg IS a sexual assault....

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Technically but its a large category with mild to severe cases with this definitely being mild.

I'm sorry but as nasty as it is I don't think it should be seen as a traumatizing event to get unwanted jizz on your pants. We aren't doing the girl any favors by acting like she has experienced a life changing event.

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How old are you and if old enough, do you have daughters? I know what I would do if some creep on a bus did this to one of my children - boy or girl.....

Seriously, I would suggest self-deleting this post....

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I don't see how your lack of impulse control is relevant to the subject.

Your insistence I delete just tells me I'm speaking uncomfortable truth.

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No, it is in response to your obvious immaturity and ignorance on the subject, let alone offensiveness of your post.

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Well please enlighten me and explain why unwanted jizz on your pants scars you for life.

Or better yet, why you think it should.

Wouldn't you want your daughter to get over it rather than become a victim for life?

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I really don't think telling someone to delete their posts so to hide his 'bad thoughts' is a constructive way forward, I don't know about this guy's intentions but I think there might seriously be people thinking this, so why not try to explain them instead of making them hide in shame? This is an anonymous forum anyway.

Geiri, I think it can be traumatising that someone just crosses your sexual boundaries like that in public and no one including yourself is stopping it and the guy is just getting away with it. Maybe it's not the act itself (creepy guy exposing himself) but her powerlessness in stopping it that is traumatising her. In your mind and most people's mind they think they would call the person out, especially in a 'safe' public space like this with lots of people around, but in reality a lot of people freeze if something like this happens, and that can really undermine your self-image and confidence!

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I would delete this post now, its really embarrassing for you and to read. Please rethink before you post again on the internet.

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You are 100% correct. The irony here is that the key thing to do to help when someone has been subjected to sexual assault (assault of any kind, really), is to help them stop thinking of themselves like a victim. In the case of Aimee's "assault" in this series, however, they did the exact opposite. They weren't happy until she does think of herself as a victim. How is that supposed to be in her interest?

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But she was a victim. She was afraid to take the bus by herself after it happened. That had nothing to do with her friends, that was before she told anyone after the incident. When she mentioned it on the bus they acted like it was her fault. I thought that the show accurately showed the guilt and shame which victims feel afterwards. Accepting that what happened to her wasn't her fault, and knowing that she was the victim in this situation is part of what will help her heal from it.

Being a victim, and accepting that one is a victim does not mean that they are weak, it just means literally that someone perpetrated a crime against them.

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But she was a victim. She was afraid to take the bus by herself after it happened. That had nothing to do with her friends, that was before she told anyone after the incident.

That's not correct. I posted right after viewing the episode, and she only displayed fear after Maeve had dragged her to the police station, where she spent who knows how many hours being interviewed.

When she mentioned it on the bus they acted like it was her fault.

No one did. She was the only one who noticed it, and what she did was to insist to be let off the bus. What she should have done is to insist the guy be thrown off the bus, but no one acted like it was her fault. Why, no one even communicated that they were aware of what had happened.


Being a victim, and accepting that one is a victim does not mean that they are weak, it just means literally that someone perpetrated a crime against them.

You can be a victim of many things. If I call you an idiot, you have been made the victim of verbal assault. Should that make you feel like a victim, just because some dick on the internet called you an idiot? Yes, jizzing on someone is in a completely different league - I would place it in the same league as someone deliberately smearing a cupcake on your jacket or something. Less gross, but the same invasion of privacy. The question is: what is the appropriate amount of trauma to feel over something like that? How delicate is it healthy to be?

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You completely lost me at jizzing on someone as being in the same league as smearing a cupcake on someone. Wow! No. No. No. No. Not at all.

It's not up to someone else to decide how much trauma someone should feel.

The question isn't what is the appropriate amount of trauma? It should be, why do people continue to get away with behaving in such a manner?

No one did. She was the only one who noticed it, and what she did was to insist to be let off the bus.

Ummm she called out "He's wanking on me" No one did anything. The bus was supposed to be a safe place for her and it no longer was.

As for her afraid to get on the bus, you are correct it was after she reported it, I was mixing that up with something else and I'm sorry.

But, I still stand by what I said. The effects of sexual assault usually don't come up right away, and they can be felt for decades afterwards. There is such guilt, shame, and fear involved that affects so many aspects of ones life, and yes, even if it's just from someone masturbating in public while looking at you. Denial is also very strong and victims will often brush it off, and even make excuses for it. The others weren't making her feel like a victim, they were letting her know that she was a victim and that they too had similar things happen to them and that it is absolutely fine to be upset after something like that happens to you.

I will tell you the same thing that I tell everyone else. Go and volunteer at a sexual assault centre. Especially if you think that that is the same as smearing a cupcake on someone. God, having a stranger masturbate on you on public transportation is something that will stick with you for life. You watched that and saw her brushing it aside and saying that it wasn't a big deal and you believed her. You didn't see that she was traumatized and just pushing it aside. Why do you think she was reacting to her boyfriend the way she was? She wasn't okay even if she was pretending to be so.

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So now they are dragging this through another season with her seeking treatment. Its actually kind of hilarious to be honest watching everybody act like she was gang raped or something on that bus.

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And I will tell you the same thing that I said in my above comment. Go and volunteer. Why do you get to decide what someone else finds traumatic? If you could brush it off, good for you. A lot of victims can't. Yes she is a victim. The fact that so many people are fine brushing off having someone masturbate on them on public transit as no big deal is the real issue here.

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What about shoving vulva cupcakes in peoples faces in a public space (school)? Sexual harassment? They would probably call it that if it was one of the guys offering the girls penises (its often good to switch the genders in scenarios to see if there are double standards).

Something like that might make lots of people feel uncomfortable but we can't define assault by whatever makes someone feel uncomfortable. There has to be a common definition for society to function. Some people in general don't like to be touched, that doesn't mean they are being assaulted every time someone tries to give them a hug (imagine the millions of aunts and grandmas locked away if that were the case).

Now again I am not saying the jizzing on someone on a bus is acceptable. I just think its ridiculous to put it in the same category as rape. A form of harassment, yes.

Btw this show had multiple scenes with public sex and masturbation being shown in a neutral or positive light so it definitely contradicts itself on the topic.

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Vulva or penis cupcakes are on a different level. Is it harassment? Very well could be. I don't think it's assault, unless the cupcake was literally shoved in the face, like throwing a pie in a face is assault.

While having someone jizz on a person is not the same as rape, it is still sexual assault. It's not harassment, that's assault because of the contact. If he had just masturbated in front of her, that's still a crime, but not necessarily assault. I also know that even without contact, something like that can be traumatizing for a teenager. I know that it can stick with them for years, and really affect how they see themselves for years to come.

As for the public sex and masturbation, I agree that there is a bit of a contradiction from the show. If you are exposing yourself sexually, whether through masturbation or sex, to others without their consent, that is a crime in the same way flashing is a crime.

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Yep she told her therapist she no longer enjoys her body, her bf, or sex all because someone nutted on her pants. I guess thats 3 more punches on her victim card.

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Right.

The and the audience eats it up because victimhood is in fashion these days.

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The days where men like you thought that as long as you don't rape, you could get away with anything, from slapping a woman's butt to feeling her up without her consent, are OVER.

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I'm not such a man. You must live in a very polarized, black and white world.

Btw I'm not even attracted to women, in case you think this in some way personal (me wanting to feeling up a woman, eww no thanx).

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Gay men don't commit sexual assault? Hmmm...

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Sure do. But you mentioned women, not men.

Btw I thought it was a crime these days to assume someone's sexuality, which you did. Pray for forgiveness from the church of woke.

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So still milking her victimhood in season 4 lol

Someone needs to tell her to get over herself.

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