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The commie left are going to hate this!


Flagsmashers. A violent bunch of deranged conspiracy theorists, wanting to tear down borders to have one world big brother government? They’re the villains lol.

This has a lot of parallels with our reality. Only the far left irl are too racist to ever want “one people”.

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Sounds based.
Too bad they had to have those racist cops in episode 2 (probably to balance it out). Hopefully there won’t be more woke stuff like that.

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blUe LiVes MatTeR!

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[–] TheArgentinian (1887) a few seconds ago
blUe LiVes MatTeR!
What does that mean in the context of this series? I am seriously curious and want to know.

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My comment was a response to someone else's, not the show.

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What do you mean commie left? I am a leftist but am no communist

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The left who happen to be communist.

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What are you talking about? Trump was a fascist by the way. My college professor told me

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Nice one. LOL.

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Bad news for you: The guy who is so irresponsible to release you occasionally out of your straightjacket is NOT a college professor.

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What are you talking about? Trump was a fascist by the way. My college professor told me,
The single most important descriptor that your college professor should have used for Donald J. Trump you have yet to evoke.

Narcissist

Donald J trump follows no specific ideology, holds to no political position and is beholden to two things only: Money and Power. What he truly is, is a:

Grifter

The most significant phrase that defines Donald J Trump, his cult of personality and his legion of followers is:

A fool and his/her money are soon parted

Donald J Trump has no religious conviction, nor moral compass, nor a understanding of empathy.

You are free to pass this along to your professor for discussion purposes. 😎

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Yes and we are all lucky he is out of office

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So that a senile pedophile and his hebephilic incest-addicted son can open the borders, flood the country with illegal migrants, put a bunch of 13- 17 year old Central American girls in "hotels" that costs taxpayers $86 million and will soon strip you of your right to bear arms?

ROFL

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Whats going on at the border is all for good reason. When these people get to vote, it will be much easier to pass the entire progressive agenda. Its too easy for republicans to block what Biden needs to do

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This is the kind of evil that perpetually circulates in the world. The end justifies the means is a loser’s game.

The only way to make the world better is to lead by example! Not by filling ICE destination centers 7x past their capacity and deporting 3.4 Million undocumented immigrants (10x more than Trump did)

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No, you're a commie

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you make that sound like a bad thing. We all will be equal under communism. It really is a trendy idea going forward to better our country

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Anyone who lived in a communist country would laugh in your face. So ignorant.

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Stop watching fox news and give CNN a try

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holy shit LMAO. you watch CNN?! hahahahaha

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Jake Tapper, Don Lemon, Chris Cuomo, and Brian Stelter give you the news straight and non biased unlike Tucker and Hannity who are liars

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Don Lemon literally incited the riots in St. Louis. LOL OMG What a dumb shit.

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Only riot I recall was on Jan 6th of this year and it was in DC

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Your college professor is a commie. I have proof.

And so are you. I have more proof.

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You say commie like thats a bad thing.

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It's not a bad thing.

It's the worst thing. Commies (socialists) killed one of my grandfathers, put the other in jail for 7 years for being a "bourgeoisie", threw my family in the streets and confiscated my family's single house (no, we didn't own a castle and we didn't own multiple houses, just a 4 bedroom one).

And they killed tens of thousands of people in my country and tens of millions worldwide.

Nothing bad about that, eh?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

Your "college professor" is a moron ...

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That is a bad thing however thats not democrat socialism and now what would happen here

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Well, it was called democrat socialism. Every state that was socialist and did that kind of things was "democratic".

And if you remember (which might be hard for your small brain) we were talking about commies ...

Hopefully no socialism will happen here :P

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Did you know under communism, you get free healthcare

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Not really, communist China didn't provide free healtcare.

Did you know that "free healthcare" is NOT actually free, and that countries that provide that actually tax people 10% (some more, some less) of their income for that healthcare????

"To fund universal health care in France, workers are required to pay about 21 percent of their income into the national health care system. "

Did you know that a LOT of capitalist countries (example: all European countries, which are capitalist) they get "free healthcare"??

I guess you didn't know any of these and your moron college professor is as ignorant as you as well.

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It was communist policy to execute the well educated in China and Russia. Don't worry, you and your college professor will be ok.

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I only watched the first episode and was annoyed Steve Rogers was called a hero for another time. Also it bored me to tears. I may check out episode 3 now.

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Ep 1 was definitely slow moving. Ep 2 was better though, sets ep 3 up to go in many directions.

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Are they bad though?

In ep3 they seem led by noble ideals. Like any leftist commie would pretend to be ;)

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I bet you think Killmonger is a villain.

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Are you implying that he's not?

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Not merely a villain but a supervillain.

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Violent anti-government types who want one big government sounds like something the left would love, not hate. I've even seen attempts to defend the Flag Smashers already:

https://collider.com/falcon-winter-soldier-villain-problems/

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Not surprising since the media was completely head-over-heels in love with the riotous actions of BLM/Antifa as they tore down, burned down, looted, vandalized, and murdered their way across the country in the name of a drug addict who died of an overdose.

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So then it was correct for that cop to kneel on his neck for over 5 minutes?

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Actually... if you watch the full bodycam footage you can see that he was actually kneeling on his shoulder, and not particularly hard.

The cops were a bit exasperated and didn't know what to do as Floyd was being a jittery mess. Every time they tried to accommodate him he kept acting erratic.

In fact, watch the whole thing unfold for yourself from multiple angles/perspectives:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjKjaCvXdf4

It's quite illuminating what actually happened versus the selectively edited tidbit that the media showed the public.

I wonder if the outrage would have been as significant if people saw the whole thing in its entirety?

That's not to say that the cops weren't negligent (they were) but it certainly wasn't the racially motivated "crime" that the mass media worked everyone up into a frenzy about.

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Never once did race come into my mind. However I did feel what the cop did was wrong. I would have been just as outraged if that were a white person. Let me ask this why is it you have people who think cops can do no wrong? Are all cops bad nope, but not all cops are good either.

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I don't particularly like the "all cops can do no wrong" crowd, as they seem motivated by the divide and conquer techniques being employed in a haphazardly effective manner by the mainstream media.

I try to remind those people that cops kill more unarmed white civilians than unarmed black civilians, and that justifying their behavior only makes the problem worse. Sometimes they're willing to listen and understand that cops are employees of the taxpayers, and that in no other industry is an employee allowed to murder their employer and get off Scott-free by claiming "I feared for my life" while zero credible evidence is presented to justify said murder.

For the people who can't be reasoned with, I usually simply reply with "Hope you enjoy Stalin States of America, Comrade."

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Wow somebody with common sense? On the internet am I dreaming? Exactly this goes deeper than race. I call out corruption by cops, I do not immediately jump to race things. I even said they need to hold them accountable when they are doing dirty things. I wish people would just call out corruption where they see it than blindly defending their base. It drives me nuts. I even said wow what Chauvin did was wrong he should be punished. Not once did I bring race into it. I also did not try and see what political side he was on, I simply said that is wrong period nothing else.

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After watching all the footage of multiple body-cams, it was made apparent that Chauvin wasn't even the one really in charge. He was just the face everyone pointed to in that infamous two minute clip of him kneeling on Floyd.

In the full thing he was just kind of following along, and when the others placed Floyd on the ground (after Floyd asked to be put on the ground multiple times following his spazzing out in the back seat of the cruiser) one was holding down Floyd at the rear while Chauvin was up near his shoulder.

Should they have checked his pulse sooner? Yes. Should they have sat him up? Maybe. The thing is they were waiting for EMS, and to be honest I'm not sure what exactly they should have done since Floyd was going into cardiac arrest from the drugs pumping through his system. Did they know that? No.

Chauvin should have been suspended and given some training to avoid wrongful death through negligence. The witch hunt against him looks completely ridiculous when you measure it against what actually happened that day and the fact that he was actually less aggressive than one of the other cops who immediately approached Floyd's SUV with his gun drawn before he even ascertained what was going on.

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Show me your public outrage over tony timpa ...

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Don't have to. I'm not here to prove anything to you. Just because I don't say things to your liking does not mean I'm not enraged about them.

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This old Leftie liked it a lot! Watched it again this weekend, this time without being on painkillers (broke my leg).

Okay, I didn't love it with all my heart, it's Marvel at the serious/political end of things like "Winter Soldier", which I'll never love as much as their weird/funny stuff like "Thor: Ragnarok" or "WandaVision". But it's a good, thoughtful, solid, serious show, with a likable and interesting hero in Sam, a hot bad boy in Bucky, good action sequences, and an adult approach to the imaginary issues. It gets a thumbs up from me, even though it's not really my cup of tea.

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