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The MCU = that kid from school that always screws up, but always gets the second chance


Once again, the MCU has no shame and its just brushing off its own mistakes like they never happened. These people have no shame because they never faced consequences like everyone else. People on the Internet like to talk about man privilege, white privilege, but nobody talks about Kevin Feige's privilege. A privilege that allows him make second guesses any time he wants and never admit his own screw ups. No, he'll just say that it was always planned that way. When Sam Raimi screwed up with Spider-Man 3, he faced consequences for that, and he admitted that the movie's failure was his fault, even if he had no intention of doing a movie filled with bad decisions that will anger fans. Gavin Hood still can't find a decent job at Hollywood after X-Men Origins. And what he did to Deadpool is still being discussed among frustrated comic fans. Zack Snyder? Don't even get me started. The poor guy had to leave Twitter because of constant harassing he's been getting from people always shitting on him for screwing up with the DCEU. Even after his daughter died people kept on lashing on him (mostly idiots like Ashley Lynch who has a clear hateful obsession with Snyder and MovieBlob). All of those people faced consequences for making superhero movies that did not live up to their potential or didn't service the source material. Whether it was fair or not, their mistakes were not brushed off. But Kevin Feige, Shane Black, Drew Pearce? The people who were responsible for Iron Man 3 being the movie it was. The filmmakers showed no respect for the source material, no respect for its authors, and no respect for the fans. None of the fans would be as angry at that (albeit, godawful) take on the iconic Marvel villain if the filmmakers showed respect to fans. Like saying, "We understand where fans come from and why they hate it; we totally respect that. We just thought that this take on the character was good for our version of the story. We respect fans and their passion and we're sorry if they are upset." If Shane Black or Drew Pearce (the movie co-writer) said this, I'd never complain about Iron Man 3. I'd just written it out of my memory like I have with many other mediocre MCU movies. But that wasn't case, because Shane Black and Drew Pearce were highly defensive of their take on the character, and when the shit hit the fan, they started pointing fingers at fans. In various interviews they started saying that fans are the problem, or that they don't know how good storytelling works and they just can't appreciate something because it doesn't fit into their close-minded worldview, or saying that we're just stupid and all we want to see are lasers shooting out of Mandarin's rings. Drew Pearce was so desperate to defend himself, he said on some IGN interview that fans are wrong for even thinking the Mandarin is Iron Man's greatest villain. And what?


They went on with their lives and never faced consequences for their disrespectful treatment of the fandom. More so, Feige still acts like nothing's happened and as if everything they did on Iron Man 3 was good and there is no backlash against it. What a douchemonger. So now you bring back Mandarin, seven years after you screwed him up worse than any other supervillain on screen, and you're acting like it all was planned? The Mandarin is Iron Man's arch enemy, you bald-headed twat. He's not Captain America's arch enemy, not Black Widow's arch enemy, and definetely not Shang-Chi's villain. The only time he had to appear in your overrated universe was in Iron Man 3, but your dumb ass thought it would be better to shit on fans and decades of the source material for a cheap gag (as most of your movies do and suck because of it; THOR SCHLOCKNAROK BEING THE WORST!").

And we all know why you chose the Mandarin as the villain for Shang-Chi, Feige. Shang-Chi's arch nemesis in the comics was Fu Manchu, who is also his father. And since you want that China money so bad (like you always did, you corporate skunks), you have to find the lesser evil, The Mandarin. And what is that? "Yeah, just take out Fu Manchu and swap him with the Mandarin." Oh, wow, what time is that your franchise takes an iconic Marvel villain who's attached to a specific hero and gives him to another hero? Ultron, Ghost, now Mandarin. Maybe it works for you, because the scripts you write for these movies are lame as heck, but these villains are considered arch rivals of their respective heroes for a reason, and you can't swipe them out without changing them fundamentally. Which is why Ultron being Stark's rival instead of Hank Pym did not wor
k, why Ghost was horrible in Ant-Man 2 (besides being pointlessly gender-swapped), and why Mandarin will be a lesser version of himself. If you're even going to do him any justice, since this movie will still be handled by the same people who made Iron Man 3.

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You realize Marvel does not have the copyright to use Fu Manchu, right? In fact, they sort of never had the copyright. There's a reason why Manchu has not been seen in a comic in decades and why that part of Shang Chi's history is often glossed over.

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K.

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Happy we are getting The Proper Mandarin I don't mind Tony out the picture at least we're getting him its called a trade-off and Fu Manchu is a racist stereotype

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Thats the power of Disney. Also,as long as he makes money,nobody will attack him. When he will start to dont make money anymore,you will see everyone suddendly starting to attack him with ferocity.

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Shane Black didn't direct any more marvel movies, so what's your problem? Sam Raimi finished his Spider-man Trilogy, and he is directing Doctor Strange in the MCU. Nothing bad happened to him.
Marvel aknowledged the Mandarin thing the One Shot, that was about 6 or 7 years ago. Now they are following up on what they teased.

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"always screws up"

Not sure you comprehend what these words really mean.

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Favreau thought The Mandarin would be perceived as a rascist stereotype in this day and age, and they probably didn't want to gave a white guy defeating him. Having him in Shsng-Chi gives them cover to utilize a character they think is racist, without rustling the jimmies of the self-loathing, woke Millennial SJWs (who'll find something to complain about regardless).

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