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Hey, maybe, why not. That would also mean she wasn't simply worried that she was losing him to the enemy (either as real friendship or as a victim to a potential trap), she actually also knew what he was secretly plotting?
Haha, I distinctly noticed that. And I'd very much describe it as 'fancy', yeah. I kept wondering what he was thinking as he was doing it. An odd choice. But maybe it wasn't a choice, but simply who he was, and he kept it under control in later parts?
Yeah and the taxidermist actor (Stuhlbarg) does such a great job with the part.
<blockquote> At the least, the site should remove anything non-entertainment-related from the trending page.</blockquote>
This is the exact reason why the imdb boards were shut down. The developers decided it took too much effort to moderate, compared to the returns they were getting from that section of the website. I doubt these other developers that picked up the torch are willing to commit to something like that. I expect things to keep going the way they are right now. So I guess we’re going to have to just make our way through these threads avoiding the cancer as best we can and enjoying the good moments we get.
Well, he was a drunk that drank ‘all the way to the very end’. The how is inconsequential, you can imagine that him being drunk made it easier practically. And as far as any abuse goes, the fact that different characters mention his drinking problem shows how bad it was. Did they say he did anything specific like hitting his wife? I don’t remember right now. But I don’t even think such details would be necessary. The movie is definitely subtle in everything it does and it keeps some information to itself.
See my other reply above for a deeper look into the main character’s mind.
I meant that he made it look like the father hanged himself because he was a drunk that made his family miserable (as drunks tend to do).
Think back at the type of person the kid is: remember the eccentric show he put on when they arrived by carriage and he strutted to the bird’s nest with all the men ironically catcalling him? He put on that entire show was for Phil’s eyes, because he realised his proclivities after finding Phil’s magazine stash. That’s the type of person the kid was. Patient, methodical, rational, and willing to do anything to reach his goals. This character definitely killed his inconvenient father.
I miss the reddit upvote button around here. It feels like I’m laughing by myself in an empty auditorium.
I think it’s lacking the gravitas that ‘Oscar movies’ carry. It looks like one and acts like one too, but it’s missing something.
I also think the Oscars kind of hate Netflix pictures. Is that issue resolved? I haven’t kept up these last couple of years.
You all seem to be forgetting what the imdb boards were. They were exactly this. Movie talk and also stupid fights and judgemental viewpoints.
Therefore, moviechat is perfectly emulating the imdb boards, so it’s actually working exactly as intended.
My own opinion, and I’m also a true movie fan myself, is that we should enjoy what we have for what it is. Take in the gorgeous view together with the bad smells - sorta thing.
‘Peacock’ is a a very accurate descriptor. Also, happy to see this board alive, I didn’t expect to get a reply <i>ever</i>, nevermind half an hour.
Yeah I’m not buying any of this. Movie is fractured and disjointed, unfortunately. And Die Hard didn’t steal anything from it, you’re thinking of Lethal Weapon.
Thank GOD for that. (The Sizemore detail.)
I completely agree, this was a thought I had as well. I went in thinking it will be the greatest movie of all time (the story itself affords that). But as it went on I realized it just felt kind of... empty. At first I tried to disregard the thought that was forming at the edge of consciousness, but it kept growing until it took over.
It just didn't have the timeless magic that it should've had. If you think about it, Villeneuve doesn't really have the ability to instil timelessness into his movies. The only one of his that ever comes close to being an eternal work is Arrival. Meanwhile, most of Christopher Nolan's movies exude timelessness.
Sidenote: Hans Zimmer's boring 'textures' definitely didn't help. We should really retire him and have composers bring back melody into scores. A composer that hides behind tribal drumming his entire career and then sees desert on screen and cues up the cliche Arabic female chanting should feel some amount of shame for missing the opportunity of a lifetime. Imagine scoring Herbert's Dune and bringing choirs to the desert. Watch The Mummy with Brendan Fraser, you'll hear the exact same thing. The Mummy...
Sidenote 2: I have to give serious props to whoever deserves it for the Sardukar planet sound (the first sound in the movie when the quote comes up). That's sound design I've never heard before in my life, and it was breathtaking in IMAX. If Zimmer came up with that, props to him.
I was under the impression that they actually kept a large part of the original iMDB board threads when they made this site. Try looking for some old discussions that you remember reading back then, there's a chance they're still here. The usernames of the original posters aren't active (they're not clickable), but the content of the posts are there. I, for one, have found some old threads that I started way back when. That's the reason I kept my username the same when I joined here, although that doesn't have much impact as I wasn't a well known poster back then. But I figured I'd keep the magic going.
Let's suppose the drug kept her childlike and naive all this time. I wonder if you ever get tired of raising a child for two hundred years, even if you're an obsessed and disturbed mastermind. I know childhood is rewarding but also very difficult for parents, and I wonder if any parent would hang in there for 14x times the normal human duration because they have a plan for it all. :))
It might be a subtle reference to her sacrificing herself to him. A 'do what you will' fantasy. Many characters act in a way as to please the doctor throughout the movie (think of the wife's comments about buying the dress he preferred, and having to tailor it to fit her because it wasn't right for her). Even Martin's mother asks him if he preferred her with one color hair over another. On the other hand, his feelings of guilt lead him to shower Martin with attention and gifts (expensive watch), which is the exact opposite to the relationship that he has with most other characters in the story. They try to get in the doctor's good graces and he tries to get in Martin's. When the plot turns and becomes sinister, the characters scurry to please the doctor even more, but the doctor switches behaviors and starts attacking Martin. I don't know how all this ties together yet, but there does seem to be a conscious pattern to it. I really like this movie.
Great points, especially the part about Delaney arbitrarily deciding he no longer has any use for Zilpha.
Real reason is this:
Journalist: As we’ve discussed, a lot of characters were lost, but the most heartbreaking was at the beginning and didn’t involve a bullet or explosion. Why was this Zilpha’s fate? Was she just never going to fit in with Delaney and the Damned?
Tom Hardy: The nature of his relationship with his sister had more to do with obsession than genuine love. The reason why he buried Thorne was because he felt bad that Thorne had died when he didn’t have to die. James had plenty of opportunities to kill Thorne, but he didn’t because Zilpha didn’t want him to — he wanted her to leave him. And when she finally decided to kill Thorne, she had said that James had told her to do that and he never had. Which I think goes on the grounds of whether or not there’s a mystical quality to James and not just a mental or traumatic hypervigilance that she hacked into. He’s not sure what that is, whether it’s a gift or a curse. He genuinely doesn’t remember saying that to her. Zilpha did that of her own volition, which ironically makes her seem insane as he rejected her, in a passionate way. They knew each other’s madness and she kind of stepped across an unwritten line between the two of them. I think he felt they were one and then she actually outed the oneness, so he started to step away from her. I believe after the funeral, he went to say, “That’s it — I want nothing to do with you.” Instead of that, he says, “Take that f—ing dress off,” which just came out of his mouth, like somebody trying not to go back to their primary addiction or obsession. Then, they have sex and he starts to see his mother and his mother is basically saying, “No, just realize this isn’t love — this is obsession. And you’re not going to move forward spiritually, because you’re having sex with your sister to punish your father for killing me. So if you see women like that, you might as well be having sex with me.” That shock completely pulls him out. I think he sees the light after that.
Entire interview: http://ew.com/tv/2017/02/28/taboo-season-1-finale-postmortem-tom-hardy-steven-knight/
That was a good feeling.
Probably because she seemed (rightly so) to have nothing left?