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I don't think she is helping herself.
My wife and I are both a bit perplexed by the strategy of dressing like a woman in church in the 1890s on the plains. It might work with the jury, but if I were sitting in the box I would find it a bit disingenuous, like she is trying too hard. If I were her I would have worn a business type outfit, something relatively conservative but not crazy, the kind of outfit one might see in a restaurant near the South Coast Metro area of Orange County at lunch on a weekday. She doesn't need to wear a Vegas/Club outfit, but she is trying too hard with the way she is dressed.
All I can figure is that her PR group thinks she is losing and that she needs to pull out all the stops and shoot the moon.
I'm not judging her, or Depp, on who is right or wrong. I have absolutely no knowledge of what went on in their marriage, I'm just saying that it looks to me like she is trying too hard with that outfit.
Maybe it will help her. Who knows. I'm not in PR and I'm not on the jury. I'm also not an expert in those fields so maybe her attorneys and her PR team know something I don't.
How does his (or her) response prove you right?
My coworkers?
Please explain.
I am actually remote. My coworkers and I work on consulting projects and we rarely see each other face to face, other than through zoom. For the record I genuinely enjoy their company, albeit in a remote setting. I like being remote and having a flexible schedule, I don't see myself commuting regularly again and I like being able to spend more time with my wife, my dog and my cats. But sometimes I do miss seeing the people I work with in person. We do live in some strange times. The last office I went into regularly, and it has been about 6 years, was full of people who I enjoyed being around. We rarely have serious disagreements, unless it is about methodology, which I would call more of a debate, and everyone is pretty friendly. In the end we have the same goal, and achieving that benefits everyone who is on the project.
Perhaps you can elaborate on just what about my post you find so upsetting?
All I said was that being a jerk does not justify a false accusation.
Do you disagree with that? Do you believe being a jerk DOES justify a false accusation?
Once again, I don't know if the accusations are false or not, but that is not really the case. The issue is more to do with the sentiment that if someone is unpleasant they deserve to be punished whether they are guilty or not.
And the individual you responded to is actually not me.
I will add that many of the people who use figures to claim false accusations of sexual assault are rare are often from sociology backgrounds. I have an MS in statistics and I'm always amazed at just how little sociologists tend to understand about statistical analysis. I remember a grad school professor I had who demonstrated an abhorrent analysis and described it as 'statistical analysis by social scientists' or something like that. It was always something of a joke among people in statistics about how often people in sociology made spurious conclusions based on faulty methodology.
So, if he is a jerk then it is okay that he is falsely accused?
You do realize that comments like this are EXACTLY why many people regard those who come forward with accusations like this are regarded with skepticism. You seem to be implying that if someone is a jerk it's not a big deal if they get accused of something they did not do.
If you had said something like 'maybe they knew he was abusing women' and they are happy it is finally coming out that would be different.
It is entirely possible that is what you meant. You might want to clarify it.
Let me also be clear that I have no idea as to whether the accusations against Noth are true or not. That is one of the sad things about all of these situations: It is very hard to prove whether they are true of false. If you have been abused it is quite likely that your abuser will never be brought to justice. If you are a man (or woman) who is falsely accused it is very unlikely that your accuser will ever be brought to justice. It's a shame, but that is just reality.
"How about Death to those who abuse others"
So you are for the death penalty in that situation? What classifies a specific type of abuse as worthy of the death penalty? Please explain.
The poster seemed to indicate the desire for the ending of a witch hunt. He did not indicate that women who falsely accuse men should be put to death.
Commending the women for coming forward might not explicitly say that he is guilty, but it certainly comes close to that. If you are commending someone for coming forward that seems to assume that the accusations are likely true.
If I was falsely accused of something like this and women that I knew made a statement like that I would be pretty angry.
If the women had said something like 'we hope women who have bad experiences are able to come forward' in a more general way that would be different.
They commended THESE women for coming forward. That is pretty close to an explicit assumption that they are telling the truth.
Can you give an example of rape being 'proven' and the person getting away?
That usually specifically means that it was NOT proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
I would agree that it is very likely that people often get away with rape, but it is almost impossible to know just how often that happens.
The issue is that while it is very hard to prove rape it is also very hard to prove that an accusation is false.
I don't know what the solution is. But the solution is not blindly assuming that if someone is being accused of something they probably did it. Especially with a crime like rape, which is so difficult to either prove or disprove.
How on earth do you know that the number of false accusations are minimal?
My guess is that you are referencing the reported statistic that "2% of all sexual assault accusations are proven false" or something similar.
If so, that does not mean that false accusations are rare. It means that it is very rare for an accusation to be PROVEN false. That does not prove the accusation true.
I often hear people make the statement that false accusations are rare. I have never seen anything to truly back the statement up. Most people who make the statement quote a study they don't understand.
It is very hard to prosecute a rape. It is also very hard to prosecute a false accusation. In the end the statement that false accusations are rare is really not backed up by any solid facts. Saying that is like saying that because rape accusations are rarely successfully prosecuted that means such accusations are usually false.
Many of the people who say false rape accusations are rare are the same types of people who say women make 78 cents on the dollar for doing the same job. The issue comes from the 'for doing the same job' part of the statement. The difference in wages is primarily due to the fact that men and women do different jobs and that men are promoted more than women. It is not that a 30 year old attorneys large, corporate law firms in Los Angeles make 22 cents difference per dollar comparing men and women. It is that men are more likely to be managing partners when they are 50. Most of the evidence I have seen have shown that this is certainly unfair to women, but the statement people quote is false, and most people lack the statistical literacy to understand what a confounding variable is.
I would love to see some specific evidence that false accusations are truly rare. That does not mean showing how many accusations are proven false, as it is very rare for an accusation to be proven false.
A beautiful woman in flats is much hotter and more glamorous than an ugly woman in heels.
In my single days going to nightclubs and bars do you know how many times me or one of my buddies said 'I would prefer an average looking woman in fancy heels to a hot woman in bad shoes' or something along those lines?
Never.
Do you know how many times I heard of a straight man saying something like that?
Never.
The shoe thing is, to be honest, invented to some extent by women that are not particularly attractive. Some of these women would like to think that a makeover and a stylish outfit can make them hot. That is just not the case, unless she is attractive to begin with.
Marisa Miller in a Walmart dress is hotter than Amy Schumer in something expensive by BCBG. I have never met a straight man who thinks differently.
You have got to be kidding me.
Both are gorgeous by today's standards.
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