Is Anti-Zionism Anti-Semitism?

Keelai,

My god, your dishonesty never ends! I started a whole thread that went into great detail about why Israel is absolutely necessary in order for Jews to have any real presence in the Muslim world. You saw that whole explanation so you know why the Jews need Israel. But you just completely ignore the uncomfortable facts of the Muslim world. Do you have any answer at all for Islamosupremacy? Any answer at all?

Everything you say about zionism and Israel is completely asinine. You say Jews should have their own country but shouldn't travel thousands of miles to build one as if Jews could build a state without traveling a long distance. If they built a state in Europe it would be in one small spot and Jews from other parts of Europe would have to travel long distances to get there. Jews from the Muslim world or America would have to travel that much farther to get there.

The Arabs in the land of Israel didn't live "peacefully" with the Jews there. That's just a myth. The truth is they oppressed the Jews as much as they could. Their oppression of Jews would have been worse if not for the Turks tamping it down. During a brief period in the 1830s when the Turks lost control of the land, the Arabs in Safed carried out a massive pogrom against Jews for several weeks.

Pointing out that Zionists briefly considered other places for a Jewish state such as Kenya, Alaska and Australia doesn't help your argument. You don't explain why those places would have been any better for a Jewish state. If the Zionists picked one of those places then the non-Jews there would have been ethnically cleansed instead. The British didn't "plan" the ethnic cleansing of Arabs. They simply left the area. It's absurd to ask Rorikon how he justifies the ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Arabs after you implied that it would be okay to ethnically cleanse other people in some other part of the world in order to build a Jewish state. It's absurd to ask Rorikon how he justifies the ethnic cleansing of 750,000 Arabs in the aftermath of World War II, when 14 million Germans were ethnically cleansed from Eastern Europe and 14 million people were ethnically cleansed in the partition of India. You excuse the ethnic cleansing of Jews from the Arab world so you’re no better than Rorikon. In that time period nearly the entire world was complicit in ethnic cleansing.

There was nothing arbitrary about the Zionists choosing the land of Israel. They chose it because it was the Jewish holy land. It was the only place any Jews actually wanted a state. And it was the only place that Jews ever had the power to get a state. Zionists had limited power and they used that power to get the land of Israel.

There is no such thing as Satan. He's just one of many fictional characters in a book of fairy tales and fables called the Bible. Aren't you a little too old to believe in imaginary friends?

have any proof of god or satan?

So, are these people Jews?

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