The roots of MeToo
Stretch back decades https://ew.com/article/1998/06/19/alyssa-milano-and-online-celebrity-exploitation/
shareDON'T RAPE OR HARRASS PEOPLE...END OF STORY.
shareRead the article and engage with it, before you offer your thoughts. End of story
shareI READ IT...
MY CONCLUSION...
DON'T RAPE OR HARRASS PEOPLE...
END OF STORY.
Obviously you didn't... That article had nothing to do with rape or even harassment, though Alyssa Milano clearly had a highly elastic definition of the latter, even back in '97
shareARE YOU DENSE?....THE ARTICLE DETAILS GROSS HARRASSMENT...CELEBRITIES ARE PEOPLE TOO.
shareAs said, even back in '97, there was a segment of our society who had already taken an increasingly elastic definition of "harassment". In Milano's case, she really equated movie aficionados online admiring her naked body in scenes that she'd willingly agreed to as "harassment"
FALSE...THE QUESTION OVER A CELEBRITIES NUDE PICTURES FROM FILMS IS ONE THING...CUT AND PASTE PORN AND PAPARAZZI SHOTS ARE VERY DIFFERENT AND ALL ARE INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE AND ARTICLE.
In Milano's case, she really equated movie aficionados online admiring her naked body in scenes that she'd willingly agreed to as "harassment"
ALSO FALSE...THE IMAGES WERE FILMED FOR MOVIES...SHE NEVER AGREED TO THEM BEING SNIPPED AND SHARED OUTSIDE THE FILM...THESE MOVIE AFICIONADOS COULD BE FOUND ON PORN SITES DISCUSSING HER LIKE SHE WAS A PIECE OF PORN MEAT...NONE OF WHICH DID SHE AGREE TO IN HER FILM CONTRACTS.
You're an idiot, Kowalski.
While most of the photos that Milano is suing over were undoctored—nude images lifted from the 1995 film Embrace of the Vampire
It's screenshots from a movie that she chose to be in. Next you're going to say it's harassment when I post my "guess what movie this screenshot is from" threads. share
"MOST"....PLUS...I ADDRESSED THT 26 MINUTES AGO...DUMBASS.
shareYeah, the others are fake. I posted 10 screenshots of movies with your ugly face in it literally yesterday. Did I need to get permission from the movie studio? In fact, you didn't even consider it harassment by me using your picture to cover the dick of a giant troll.
shareI AM A FREAKING WEIRDO...SOMEONE ELSE MAY HAVE BEEN HURT BY THAT....IRRELEVANT.
shareAnyone can be hurt by anything. Just yesterday, Kumail Nanjiani said he had to go through therapy because he faced trauma from the negative reviews from "The Eternals". I guess we should refrain from negative movie reviews because he was hurt by it.
shareWOW...YOU REALLY WANT TO LEAN INTO THIS BULLY ASSHOLE PERSONA,HUH?
shareNegative movie reviews are bullying now? You're softer than a marshmallow.
shareI DID NOT SAY THAT....APPARENTLY KUMAIL HAD SOME ISSUES WITH THE RESPONSE TO THE FIL...I AM SAYING HIS MENTAL HEALTH IS A REAL THING AND NOT A JOKE FOR ASSHOLES LIKE YOU TO TOSS AROUND.
shareFrom a negative review? If he was talking about being racially profiled, fine. But trauma from a negative review?
shareNOW YOU WANT TO QUALIFY AND JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE REACTIONS TO SITUATIONS WITHIN THEIR OWN LIVES?
shareIf it's something stupid like that, then yes. It's victimizing yourself. Imaging how someone who went through real trauma would feel about his statement.
shareYOU SOUND LIKE AN ASSHOLE RIGHT NOW...LIKE...MORE THAN USUAL...CHILL OUT,WEIRDO.
shareDude, I've been through real trauma, and it's not up to me to decide what can break someone's mental state.
It can be crushing when you put your heart and soul into something that you think is going to be really great, and then people just shit all over it. So he talked to a therapist? I think the world might be a better place if more people could have access to therapy instead of just shitting all over other people on the internet.
If he had said he was hurt or upset about the negative reviews, there would be no problem. But where is the trauma of starring in a movie that was poorly received? It's happened to literally every actor. How can he give the same term of experiencing bad reviews to someone who was raped, suffered mental anguish, witnessed someone die, surviving an accident etc? I mean, the fact that you said you've been through "real trauma" is pretty much my point. What he went through wasn't real trauma. It's just hurt from the bad reviews.
shareIf you listen to the whole podcast, he talks about having anxiety that he had for years. It's a podcast about mental health. I think the articles about it took the conversation out of context, and now people like you are making it out to be a big thing.
Maybe give it a listen and see if you still think he's making a big deal about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wM8216D8kg
If you don't want to watch the whole thing (it is like an hour long interview) start here. https://youtu.be/6wM8216D8kg?si=xJbp6dqVzsUlxTdT&t=1875
I mean, the fact that you said you've been through "real trauma" is pretty much my point
Trauma is not just one thing though. A quick google search can give one this answer to what is trauma
"Trauma is when we experience very stressful, frightening or distressing events that are difficult to cope with or out of our control."
You also left out the part where I said it's not up to me to decide what can break someone's mental state. You don't get to decide what is actually traumatic for someone else.
Again if you watch the clip, he actually says that his wife told him that he had trauma from it, and he agreed. share
Again if you watch the clip, he actually says that his wife told him that he had trauma from it, and he agreed.
Fair enough.
You don't get to decide what is actually traumatic for someone else.
I disagree. I've seen people victimize themselves and society is doing it more and more. Imagine if someone has brain cancer and someone says to them, "I know how you feel. I had a really bad headache once that lasted two days. It traumatized me." I think the person who had brain cancer has every right to judge that person.
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YOU SOUND LIKE A THIRD GRADER....THAT COMPARISON IS BOOTY...TRY HARDER IF YOU ARE GONNA PLAY REPUGNANT TROLL.
shareKowalski: "You sound like a third grader."
Also Kowalski: 'That comparison is booty".
I TYPE HOW I SPEAK...A COMBINATION OF STYLES AND RHYTHMS SMASHED TOGETHER....MY STYLE IS HODGEPODGE....YOURS ISN'T...YOURS IS LAME AND SOMETIMES PATHETIC.
shareSo how do you get to decide how someone is traumatised? What level of trauma is acceptable to you?
I don't think I've ever encountered any one who would compare a pet frog to a child like you mentioned below, or brain cancer to a headache, so that comparison isn't really in good faith.
I think in your arguments you are also forgetting that people use language loosely. The amount literally is used in language to express something figurative is astounding. But we don't call them to task.
If you watched the podcast you would know that no one is playing victim, but society needs to realize that words do hurt. I'd rather break a bone than have had some of the shit said to me over the years. You, and the media need to start taking a deeper dive into some of these stories and not just want to make a headline out of a soundbite.
You, and the media need to start taking a deeper dive into some of these stories and not just want to make a headline out of a soundbite.
I already said your point on Kumail Nanjiani was fair. Now to answer how I would get to decide what trauma is. The answer is what people refer to as "the oppression Olympics." For some reason, there are people who like to victimize themselves to gain sympathy.
Oppression Olympics is a characterization of marginalization as a competition to determine the relative weight of the overall oppression of individuals or groups, often by comparing race, gender, socioeconomic status or disabilities, in order to determine who is the worst off, and the most oppressed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oppression_Olympics#:~:text=Oppression%20Olympics%20is%20a%20characterization,off%2C%20and%20the%20most%20oppressed. share
AND AFTER SAYING FAIR...YOU MADE MULTIPLE SHITTY COMPARISONS AND ANALOGIES THAT CONTRADICT EVERYTHING PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED....TROLL BURGER!
shareFrom Psychology Today
Psychological trauma is a person’s experience of emotional distress resulting from an event that overwhelms the capacity to emotionally digest it. The precipitating event may be a one-time occurrence or a series of occurrences perceived as seriously harmful or life-threatening to oneself or loved ones. People process experiences differently, and not everyone has the same reaction to any event; what one person experiences as trauma may not cause distress for another.
but society needs to realize that words do hurt."
Our thoughts and beliefs about the words we hear dictate how much pain we experience over them. However disappointed and displeased with someone else's opinions and thoughts we might be, they're not sticks or stones. They cannot break anyone 's bones
And if you had a limb hacked off in an accident down at the lumber yard, you wouldn't agree with someone who incurred a small bruise, after bumping into a countertop, asserting that you both had suffered comparable injuries. That's exactly what folks who now claim to be "traumatized " by words alone are doing
shareThat's a really poor argument as you are comparing a physical injury to a physical trauma.
I hate to break it to you, but words can cause trauma. That being said, I'm not actually defending Kumail Nanjiani as someone who has suffered a trauma. I'm defending his words being used out of context to create a headline. I'm defending that you don't get to decide what trauma is for someone else. Here is yet another study that shows that.
https://rdouglasfields.com/2010/10/30/sticks-and-stones-hurtful-words-damage-the-brain/
Sure this is mostly about children, but it can affect adults too.
https://wellbeingscounselling.ca/impacts-of-verbal-abuse/
Again, this isn't just in defense of Kumail, this is to let you understand that words can hurt someone just as much as breaking a bone. Bones heal. Bruises heal. Words can impact the brain for a lot longer than either.
You do agree that there are degrees of just about everything in life, do you not? As such, the loss of a limb is far more debilitating than a bruise, and a five year old who's regularly told that he's a fuck-up by his bar trash floozy of a mother isn't comparable to a multi-millionaire celebrity (Let's take Kumail out of the picture for a moment )who's latest product receives unflattering reviews
SO YOU ARE JEALOUS OF HIS FAME AND MONEY...NOW I KNOW WHY YOU ARE SO STUBBORN ON THIS SILLY POINT OF YOURS.
shareWasn't even referring to Kumail or any other specific celebrity in that last post, Vandal. Read more closely, before you react
shareisn't comparable to a multi-millionaire celebrity (Let's take Kumail out of the picture for a moment )who's latest product receives unflattering reviews
DUDE WORKED FOR HIS LIFESTYLE...YOU CAN DO THE SAME...DON'T BE JELLY.
And I've never claimed that he didn't work hard for all that he has
FAIR ENOUGH...BUT YOU ARE SUPER JELLY...IT SEEMS TO CLOUD YOUR JUDGEMENT ON THIS TOPIC.
shareI'm far more jealous of Martin Kemp, who got to do this
https://youtu.be/H5P1Y9QDyt0?si=YZzGJ2Ta0zZv1LtF
Of course there are degrees, I'm just saying that you can't see someone's mental health so don't be too quick to judge.
I dont know what that multimillionaire celebrity had to endure in their lifetime. Perhaps they had a bar trash mom? The point is we don't know what anyone's life has been.
Verily as I agree with you, SJ, I also wish you luck in persuading The more Woke among us that hearing/reading words we find objectionable isn't comparable to physical assault
shareI'd find it insulting if someone's kid was missing and someone compared it to losing their pet frog. It's the definition of someone wanting to take away the attention of someone else.
shareYOU KEEP MAKING SHITTY ANALOGIES....TO COVER FOR THE FACT THAT YOU DUG YOURSELF IN DEEP OVER THE POSITION OF TRAUMA OVERLORD.
shareWhat makes it a shitty analogy?
shareIT AND YOUR GENERAL SHIT NATURE.
shareIf you can determine that my analogy was shit, then you shouldn't be confused how someone can judge someone else's trauma. I agree, it's a shit analogy. And that was the point. You could tell it was shit, the same way I can tell someone being scarred over bad a bad review is a shit excuse for trauma.
shareNOPE...FALSE...YOU CAN'T BACKPEDDLE AND MAKE SHIT UP AND FROST A CAKE...I SMELL THE SHIT STILL...AND IT'S YOU!
shareYou still haven't answered the question properly: what makes it a shit analogy?
shareI'd find it insulting if someone's kid was missing and someone compared it to losing their pet frog. It's the definition of someone wanting to take away the attention of someone else.
LISTING A CLEARLY TRAUMATIC EVENT AND A SMALLER ALSO TRAUMATIC EVENT DOES NOT GIVE YOU ANY INSIGHT INTO A STRANGER'S HEADSPACE DEALING WITH A LIFE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.
So then by your logic, my analogy was in fact accurate because if someone's pet frog dies, you know nothing about their life.
shareNO... It's the definition of someone wanting to take away the attention of someone else....YOU FUCKED IT UP ALL ON YOUR OWN WITH YOUR ASSUMPTIVE HYPOTHESIS.
shareYour argument is a catch-22.
shareWHAT ARGUMENT?🙄
shareI know you're slow, but holy shit.
shareYOU ARE AN IDIOT...YOU ARE WRONG...THOSE ARE MY ONLY ARGUMENTS...AND THEY ARE BOTH ONJECTIVE FACT...YOU ARE THE WORST!
shareThis is why there's no point of talking to you.
shareIT'S TOUGH BEING FRIENDS WITH AN AWESOME JUICE DADDY LIKE MYSELF...I GET IT...BUT DESPITE HOW MUCH I HATE YOU FOR BEING THE ABSOLUTE WORST PRSON EVER SHAT OUT OF THE GOD'S ANUSES....YOU ARE MY FRIEND...AND I COMMEND YOUR EFFORT.
GOLD STAR.⭐
You could tell it was shit, the same way I can tell someone being scarred over bad a bad review is a shit excuse for trauma.Yet you also said....
I already said your point on Kumail Nanjiani was fair.
Look....I'm really not trying to fight with you here, but I just think that it's shitty to say what someone can and not say was traumatic to them. Above I shared what psychology says trauma is. I don't know someone's circumstances are to be able to process an event. If someone suffers from depression or anxiety, their ability to process something happening to them. What may be traumatic to them right now, may not be in a few years.
Also, in regards to the Metoo movement, that trauma can come later. Some people have acute trauma from those events, or it can manifest later as PTSD.
So to make a long story longer, I think your analogy is crap because while maybe not a frog, someone could certainly not be able to process the loss of a beloved family pet, like a dog or a cat. Does that mean it would be traumatic for you? No. But someone certainly can experience acute trauma with that. share
Yet you also said....
I'm aware. I was just defending my original argument before your context.
I think your analogy is crap because while maybe not a frog, someone could certainly not be able to process the loss of a beloved family pet, like a dog or a cat.
That's my point. I think it would be ridiculous for someone to claim trauma over the dead pet frog, but I could understand a cat or a dog.
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I ONCE HAD A PAIR OF HENS...NOT FROGS...BUT I HAVE KNOWN PEOPLE WITH PET FROGS...WHEN JESSE AND BECCKY DIED IT BROKE ME A LITTLE...THEY ARE WHY I DON'T EAT CHICKEN...YOU ARE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHAT YOU WILL ACCEPT BASED ON WHAT YOUR TINY BRAIN CAN FATHOM...WHICH IS LIMITED TO SAY THE LEAST....YOU ARE BEING A DICK AND YOUR ANALOGIES ARE STIPID....MOVE ON ALREADY.🤫
shareI think the problem here is that you named your hens from characters from Full House.
YOU ARE PICKING AND CHOOSING WHAT YOU WILL ACCEPT BASED ON WHAT YOUR TINY BRAIN CAN FATHOM
That's what you did when you said my analogy was bad. You said I couldn't compare a frog dying to something like rape. Of course it's a bad analogy, that's my point. There is a threshold of what should be considered traumatic.
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NO...THERE IS NOT A THRESHOLD...AND EVEN IF THERE WERE....YOU WOULDN'T BE IN CHARGE OF DETERMINING IT....TRAUMA IS A PERSONAL EXPERIENCE AND EVEN SOMETHING THAT SEEMS INSIGNIFICANT TO YOU COULD BE TRAUMATIC TO ANOTHER....MEANIE PANTS.👖
shareThen why bring up a pet frog being a bad comparison?
shareOOOOH....SNEAKY BUTTHOLE....LMAO...YOU KNOW VERY WELL...YOU KNOW VERY WELL WHAT YOU SAID AND WHAT IT MEANT AND NOW YOU ARE TALKING IN CIRCLES....BUT I DIGRESS....WE ARE REALLY GOOD FOR EACH OTHER'S POST COUNTS,BRO....LIKE HOLY SHIT....AND MOVIE CLUB STILL UPCOMING...50K FOR ME BY SUNDAY...GUARANTEED...YOU ARE CLOSING IN ON 48K...EVENTUALLY 50K.....WE ROCK!@!@!@!@!@!
shareNOT WOKE...JUST HUMAN.
shareAnd possessing all of the flaws which charcerize our species. Namely, equating words we don't like with physical violence
shareNOPE.
shareI'm relieved to read that you've finally seen the light, and no longer mistake language alone for something which can be traumatizing
shareROUND AND ROUND...YOU DON'T KNOW OTHER'S MINDS...YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT IS TRAUMATIC AND WHAT ISN'T...BEING SO DENSE AS TO ACTUALLY BELIEVE YOU HAVE OBJECTIVE FACT WHEN ALL YOU REALLY HAVE IS TWISTED OPINION...THAT IS YOUR PROBLEM.
shareI complimented you in the post to which you're replying. Show s9me gratitude
shareGRATITUDE IS EARNED...YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT CREATE A THREAD THAT INSPIRES THE WORST KIND OF POSTS AND DEFENDED IT INTO THE TOILET...NO GRATITUDE EARNED...NONE GIVEN.
shareEARNED...YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING BUT CREATE A THRED THAT INSPIRES THE WORST KIND OF POSTS"
No one here has called Milano a "cunt", "whore", or any variation therein. Dunno how much more sanitized you want things to be
DIDN'T SAY THEY DID AND THAT ISN'T THE POINT....YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE AND WHY YOU DO THESE THINGS...AT LEAST BE A MAN AND OWN UP TO IT.
share"Negative movie reviews are bullying now?"
Goes to a larger problem in our civilization these days https://www.artofmanliness.com/character/behavior/dangers-of-concept-creep-podcast/ "Bullying", like "harassment", is one of those terms we now have an increasingly elastic definition of
NO...THEY AREN'T...NOBODY SAID THEY WERE...WHAT WAS SAID IS....EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT AND EVERYONE RECEIVES STRESS AND TRAUMA IN DIFFERENT WAYS....PLUS NOBODY KNOWS WHAT IS HAPPENING IN SOMEONE ELSES LIFE...ALL THE STRAWS SO TO SPEAK PILIING ON THE CAMEL'S BACK.
THERAPY IS NOT A BAD THING EITHER....SEEKING TREATMENT FOR NOT FEELING RIGHT IS A SMART MOVE.
Never said psychotherapy was a bad thing. Let's all hope and pray that KN's shrink is steering him towards keeping events in perspective. Words written online or in print ARE NOT the equivalent of being physically assaulted and maimed beyond recognition. Our thoughts and underlying beliefs about those words dictate how much pain we experience, whenever we encounter sentiments we find objectionable
shareI'm sharing this again down here, because this conversation was on a podcast which focuses on mental health. It was one sentence where he says that his wife said he had trauma over it. He also talks about what led to his feeling that way, and that he has suffered with anxiety for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wM8216D8kg
Like I said to SJ, the media took a soundbite, made a headline out of it, and you all are now shitting all over him
It was one sentence where he says that his wife said he had trauma over it"
Clearly then, we need to be shifting all over her instead
That's what you took from that? I'm assuming that you didn't watch any of it.
The fact that you all are taking one sentence out of an hour long conversation about life and mental health, and making a big deal about it is really sad to me. Since you said
Clearly then, we need to be shifting all over her insteadjust really emphasises that maybe we shouldn't be talking about it at all. share
Kumail Nanjiani's wife has persuaded him that he was not simply displeased and disappointed with the media's unfavorable take on The Eternals, but "traumatized" by it https://www.mensjournal.com/news/kumail-nanjiani-lasting-trauma-marvel-eternals-negative-reviews
When KN arrives home early one day, to discover the missus on all fours in the middle of their living room, while The Fed Ex guy is balls deep in her rear end, let's see if she can persuade him that TFXG was really just helping her retrieve the car keys she swallowed the night before, while they were chowing on tofu burgers
So, you share an article written by someone just looking to sell a story instead of watching the entire conversation that he had to base your argument and then make up a story? No wonder this world is shit.
Also, I'd ask the headline writer where "lasting" trauma was mentioned.
The article quotes the interview directly. Did she not persuade KN that he'd been traumatized?
shareThat's the line. It doesn't take any of the conversation before or after into context. It's click bait because they know that people will get annoyed that someone has emotional distress over anything. They don't mention that the Inside of You podcast is about mental health. All these "articles" all use the same quotes lifted from the interview. They don't talk about how he's answering a question posed to him. They don't talk about how he said that he knew it wasn't him that got the bad reviews it was about him. He talks about how they had to travel the world while Marvel thought they would be getting great reviews. He talks about how it was hard because of how he approached his work. How he can't be so results based.
But no....just take the quote where his wife said that he had trauma from it, while assuming that the trauma only comes from bad reviews and not the entire situation surrounding that event.
Kumail is wise to stay in acting rather than stand-up then. If he found the press saying unpleasant things about The Eternals traumatizing, he's really not going to enjoy the general audience 's response to him standing on a stage, reciting Woke Dogma and mistaking that garbage for "comedy"
shareAgain, you are completely missing the point.
shareIn this day and age, not falling in line behind those who misuse concepts like "trauma " is now considered "missing the point"
shareFrom Psychology Today
Psychological trauma is a person’s experience of emotional distress resulting from an event that overwhelms the capacity to emotionally digest it. The precipitating event may be a one-time occurrence or a series of occurrences perceived as seriously harmful or life-threatening to oneself or loved ones. People process experiences differently, and not everyone has the same reaction to any event; what one person experiences as trauma may not cause distress for another.
Ah, conceptual drift https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/04/concept-creep/477939/ Nothing like it
shareYes, and we should still believe that the earth is flat, that people who aren't white are inferior, that we need to be ruled by a king, women shouldn't vote....
I'm sorry that you have no empathy or understand that the more that we understand about the way our minds work, the better we can understand each other.
I'm sorry that you are harping on the use of the word trauma and not bothering to listen to entire conversation and see that there is more to it than just "TRAUMA" which was barely even touched on, and was taken completely out of context for all those articles about it.
Non-whites who behave like Riley Freeman and women like Kumail 's ol'ball'n'chain probably shouldn't be allowed to vote, this is true
shareOkay. I'm done. You don't actually want to discuss anything.
shareI wasn't finished yet... No one ever believed the world was flat, and empathy isn't the force for benevolence we've been led to believe it is
https://www.econtalk.org/paul-bloom-on-empathy/
"Just yesterday, Kumail Nanjiani said he had to go through therapy because he faced trauma from the negative reviews from "The Eternals". I guess we should refrain from negative movie reviews because he was hurt by it."
Don't give anyone ideas
NEGATIVE REVIEWS HAPPEN...MAYBE NOT TURN SOMEONE ELESE REACTION AND EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH THEM INTO A JOKE THOUGH.
shareAnyone who publicly rejoices in pretending that they're that fragile sets themselves up to be satirized
shareWe were all traumatized by the sight of Kumail, Aziz Ansari, Nanette, and every other Woke non-comedian continuing to book gigs, even though their material is less hilarious than a case of smallpox, while Dina Hashem was cowed into apologizing, and Jimmy Carr had to fend off cancelation
Goddamn State Farm, for refusing to foot the bill for the exhaustive psychotherapy we all required in order to recover from these events
SHE SIGNED A CONTRACT TO APPEAR IN A FILM....DID IT HAVE A CLAUSE SAYING HER IMAGE WOULD BE CUT FROM THE MOVIE AND USED ON PORNOGRAPHIC WEBSITES?
shareYou don't need a clause in a contract. It has nothing to do with the person who is signing the contract. The only way it would be illegal is if you're using their image for purposes like advertising something they didn't agree with.
shareYEAH....PORN AND CELEBRITY NUDITY WEBSITES...WHICH CHARGE MONEY...AND USE THE IMAGES TO CHARGE THE MONEY...LAWSUIT WAS JUSTIFIED...THE BEHAVIOR WAS HARRASSMENT.
shareOnly some charge money. Most porn websites don't. But that has nothing to do with them being nude and it's not harassment. That's just monetary gain without the permission of the person involved. You are not allowed to profit from someone else's image.
shareBULLSHIT...THEY MAKE MONEY...MAYBE NOT OFF THE CONSUMER...BUT ADS AND SHIT MAKE THEM MONEY..
BEING USED ON AN ADULT WEBSITE WITHOUT PERMISSION IS HARRSSMENT...OR AT THE VERY LEAST A JUSTIFIABLE LAWSUIT.
According to you, this is harassment:
https://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/index.php?cat=2
I guess this site better pay up.
NOPE...NOT AT ALL WHAT I SAID...AND YOU KNOW IT.
shareIt is what you said. There are ads on this site and they have taken screenshots from Star Trek and put it on their fan site without permission.
shareTHAT SITE MARKETS THE TV SHOW TO THE TV SHOWS FANS....FOR THE SAKE OF THE TV SHOW...
QUITE DIFFERENT THAN TAKING ONE PIECE OUT OF A FILM AND USING IT ON AN ADULT SITE TO MARKET MASTURBATION.
That's like someone doing a nude scene and saying, "I feel so embarrassed. I didn't do the nudity for my next door neighbour to see it and then feel awkward around me now." Like, what did you think was going to happen?
shareNO IT ISN'T.🤣
shareIt definitely is. I remember Emmy Rossum saying that she doesn't get naked on screen, her character does and that the context matters. This is the argument you are making.
shareWHAT YOU SAID MADE NO SENSE...SORRY...YOU MADE A TERRIBLE COMPARISON.
shareSo you think this would be normal?
https://i.imgur.com/qEUBXug.png
YOU ARE BEING EXTRA ASSHOLE TODAY.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON IN HIS LIFE AT THAT TIME?....THINGS COMPOUND...SHIT COMES UP...THINGS LINGER...NOTHING IS EVR AS SIMPLE AS ONE ANSWER...THE MAN HAD SOME ISSUES AND SOUGHT TREATMENT...THAT IS A GOOD THING...GROW UP.
Then without specifying, he should mention that there was other stuff going on at the time. Him being in a critical bomb is something literally every actor goes through. Oh no, the poor millionaire actor needs therapy for bad reviews.
shareNOW YOU DICTATE WHAT A PERSON SAYS OR SHARES?....OR HOW THEY EXPRESS THEMSELVES REGARDING A SITUATION?....GROW UP,BUTTHOLE.
shareIsn't that what you're doing right now with my opinion?
shareDo you blame the woman for what she is wearing when she gets raped too?
shareYou should look just above your comment. I said I just like to piss Kowalski off.
https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/65c526c5bd83f27d803cfa5c/The-roots-of-MeToo?reply=65c5500eb6f03e262d7eb71e
"You're an idiot, Kowalski."
He truly is. He needs to stop getting involved in these kinds of discussions and just leave it to his socks.
On a side note:
Doherty has an excuse(She's dying of cancer), but Good God do the other two of Milano's former cast mates look like hell these days https://youtu.be/MM4WGr7CEu0?si=qL8o1Y9tVgHXsNxf
You'd be forgiven for thinking they're in their late 60s, instead of early 50s
Here's the film in it's entirety https://youtu.be/H5P1Y9QDyt0?si=BOrOcOpMguWdu0oU Compared to most Cinemax fare that was airing both then and throughout the 2000s-early 10s, EOTV was mild
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