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Why modern movies are not as well liked


This is a fair list of modern tropes that do cause issues for film lovers.

https://dailysquared.com/things-about-movies

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But in the YouTube age, people aren't restricted to simply whatever is on, and it delights me that all over the internet the favorite movies/music are from the 60/70s (or earlier), even these 20-somethings I'm talking to in a live chat right now

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I listened to a 30 year old mention just that. He finds the older films better and the newer ones to be trite and uninteresting.

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When they see the real thing, why would they settle for anything less?

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This seems to be -- yet again -- a list of complaints disguised as being about 'modern movies' but one that's predominantly about the modern Hollywood blockbuster with budgets north of $100m. The people who've written the list should broaden their horizons, as the list says more about their lack of interest in cinema than it does about cinema.

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I would disagree as most streaming films fall into many of these modern issues. They are the bulk of what is offered and they infest the services so much that those hidden gems are rarely found.

As for broadening the horizon, unless you fork out a good chunk of your paycheck for multiple streaming memberships, movie tickets, physical media, it's not always a viable option. Plus, streaming services actively keep things buried to promote their productions.

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I would disagree as most streaming films fall into many of these modern issues


You'll struggle to find a Kore-eda film that relies heavily on CGI. Or a Celine Sciamma film about superheroes. Or a Hlynur Pálmason film that's part of a franchise.

Plus, streaming services actively keep things buried to promote their productions.


Well, that's my point made for me really. This is a list of complaints by people who don't actively watch films. They just get spoon-fed by algorithms and marketing departments. Who cares?

They should go and watch some cinema that's more to their taste than the superhero movies they seem to endlessly complain about. And then, when they actually know something about more than 1% of modern filmmaking, they might be able to form a valid opinion.

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That's the condescending attitude I assumed you would have .

People have lives. Not everyone has the time to go searching for entertainment when they have family, work, friends, and social obligations. When they look at what's provided in the service they pay for, and it's scrappy, then they disengage.

That's a huge reason movies are dying in the cinema and steaming services are losing profits.

That's why we're getting shit movies promoted to everyone and they're not watching anymore.

Then comes the, broaden your horizons you lazy person argument. That's really going to win them over and change studios.

I must disagree with you. Especially since you sound like me 20 years ago.


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People have lives. Not everyone has the time to go searching for entertainment


You don't have to mine it out of the ground. It's not time-consuming. If you don't like the entertainment you're seeing, seek out something else. There's loads of it.

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Actually it is time consuming. Putting the current trends of finding services, thumbing through selections, and making a decision, most people Actually spend more time searching that watching. Plus, you have to know where to search to get your Content.
Not everything is easily accessible or with a person's budget. Man I'm getting chills at your responses. You would gave loved me 20 years ago.

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Not everything is easily accessible or with a person's budget.


Films are more readily accessible now than they ever have been. A kid who wants a crash course education in cinema just needs to get themselves a Criterion subscription for a year and go hog-wild. Couldn't do that, pre-internet. You really did have to put effort and funds into finding stuff back in the day.

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I SPENT HOURS AND HOURS SEARCHING DOZENS OF VIDEOSTORES FOR TITLES I NEVER DID FIND.

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My local video store was great for horror -- and I thank them for it, those were good times -- but crap for just about anything else that wasn't -- boom! -- right in the centre of the mainstream. I had to mostly rely on late night television for my film education. It's so much easier to find stuff these days, but you do have to be a little bit engaged, same as you always did.

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Criterion collection... that's older movies generally. Lol

That's not the modern cinema. Please give a better example.

Plus remember, just because you have more options doesn't mean they're good or you have the time to fi d them.

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Please give a better example.


My example was intended as an illustration of how films are more accessible and cheaper to access than they used to be, rather than specifically about access to modern cinema.

The reason for that is that there is so much modern cinema being made and people are into different things -- so it would be silly to recommend a particular streaming service. People have to find the things that interest them, rather than the things that interest me. There really is plenty of stuff out there, beyond the Hollywood blockbuster.

And, again, if you aren't happy with the entertainment you're seeing, it only makes sense to seek out something else. But people don't, as you say: they disengage. That's on them.

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And your response shows that the simple answer of Go broaden your horizon requires a lot research and time than most people don't have. You didn't have time to outline it and had to give an example that wasn't even modern cinema, the subject in question.

See it's funny because you're showing me that the "complaints are in fact valid and the "solution" you have is not really that effective.

It doesn't matter if there are more movies available if people can't actually define where to go. It's like Malcom in the middle. When Malcom realizes he can do anything, he can't decide on one thing to do.

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And your response shows that the simple answer of Go broaden your horizon requires a lot research and time than most people have.


Well, no, it really doesn't.

But it really doesn't matter. It's not central to the point. The point is that the article is a list of complaints about Hollywood blockbusters. And I think we're now both agreed that Hollywood blockbusters make up only a tiny proportion of all films being released.

If people aren't inclined to look outside of that (or, in your version, don't have the time), that's on them. But don't talk to me about 'all modern cinema is rubbish' or 'it's all superheroes and CGI now', when neither of those things are true.

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I didn't say that and neither did the article. It was in there but not the focus.

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YES...HE DOES...I AM WATCHING TWO OF MY FAVORITE POSTERS GO BACK AND FORTH AND IT'S AMAZING...WISH I HAD SOME POPCORN.

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I LIKE LOTS OF MODERN FILMS...TRUE I LIKE MORE OLDER FILMS...BUT THOSE WERE FROM MY SOFT BRAIN YEARS...THE YEARS WHEN I WOULD REWATCH A MOVIE A DAY AFTER SEEING IT...READ THE LINER NOTES WHILE GOING THROUGH AN ALBUM TRACK BY TRACK...THERE ARE LOTS OF GOOD MOVIES STILL..I JUST DON'T HAVE THE SAME LEVEL OF EXCITEMENT AND OPENNESS I ONCE HAD.

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After seeing Force of Nature last night, I must agree good movies are still being made. But looking at the ratings fro. The last 19 weeks, the new movies are not holding up. The rating is 2.08 out of 5.

Last night's movie and the one before did something great: a detective actually does detective work and doesn't get pulled into the action cliches.

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Because few people in this topic will say it, I do like modern Superhero movies but don't go out of my way to see other genres in theaters. But when it comes to all other genres I prefer older movies.

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THAT'S FAIR...ALI AND I ARE GONNA HIT THE THEATER FOR DEADPOOL & WOLVERINE...FIRST TIME IN FIVE YEARS.

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You're swimming in gold with that perspective. I could only respect that point of view.

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I noticed a lot of young people favor silent and PreCode films. I am middle aged and like a few myself. But I would never knock today's film makers, everyone has their taste in cinema.

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Where are you running across that many people into those kinds of films?

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On YouTube, many of the comments are from younger people, and in Chicago, some theatres have silent film fests, and according to the news articles, young people are a large % of the audience.

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That’s very interesting. It really didn’t occur to me that a large segment of those film’s fan base would be that young.

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I can understand the young people, I watch silent due to my grandma, since she liked them in her youth.

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The bombastic soundtracks are super annoying, reliance upon absurd spectacle, obnoxious characters presented as heroes. We have come so far away from anything like a cinema verite, at least in the mainstream offerings - I gravitate to indy / art / foreign films for intelligent content, treatment.

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