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Rose McGowan goes on Tucker Carlson Tonight to fight for Britney


Well in a very strange and unexpected twist, apparently Rose McGowan cold-called Tucker's producers and asked to come on the show. Apparently Tucker knew very little about why she even wanted to do it but said OK.

And here's what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7kU_CmFRDU

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I didn't watch it, but is it not so weird she would choose a network that is clearly the most female predatory network in the history of television (and before Fox fans go nuts, just look at their background and the number of sexual harassment and assault payouts they have made - from Ailes to O'Reilly and on down - O'Reilly alone paid one woman 30 million).

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I can't speak to her motives but I can tell you that it was a civil, even cordial, exchange. The clip is only 5 minutes long. Might as well check it out.

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fox = open minded

Isn’t it ironic that they can’t go to the liberal outlets that claim to support them. They have to go to the REEEcist outlet that believes in free speech


"I didn't watch it"... why not?

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Right, Fox is open-minded.

My point was out of all history of news outlets, Fox News has been hit the hardest for systemic sexual harassment. No other network is even close, but she chose Fox, which to me is two things: 1 - bizarre and 2, possibly those insiders in the media world know a bit more about her than those not in the business. My own interpretation of her is that she has some serious mental issues (but I don't know the cause of such issues; it may be her life experiences and mistreatment.

As for not watching it, I consider Tucker Carlson to be a liar, fraud, and a horrible journalist and have no desire to listen to him on ANY topic.

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Right, Fox is open-minded.

Modern day, Fox is a good as it gets.

20 years ago, NYT, CNN or BBC were examples of trustworthy and professional journalism. Fast forward to modern day, they're tabloids at best and pamphlets at worst. Back then, Fox was a joke. Modern day, while it's biased, it's way more moderate and professional than most of media landscape. Times have changed. O tempora, o mores.

My point was out of all history of news outlets, Fox News has been hit the hardest for systemic sexual harassment

That doesn't mean much. Current day, sexual harassment/abuse requires nearly zero evidence, and that makes it a very powerful weapon. If you wanna slander some person or organization, the easiest way to do it is to get some chicks to make some accusations. Since Fox goes against the tide in modern balance of power, it's logical that they're hit the hardest for that type of accusations. The odd thing would be the opposite.

My own interpretation of her is that she has some serious mental issues

This is a recurrent comment: wokes (AKA modern left) think that people that don't share their beliefs have mental issues. I already talked about it here:
https://moviechat.org/tt0993840/Army-of-the-Dead/60abe3cd7a3b651435c20bd7/Posters-screaming-about-woke-in-discussing-this-film-are-engaging-in-whats-known-as-social-contagion?reply=60bcddec5e5b8953c78bf9d3

This is one of the reasons I think wokeness, or modern left, is much more a religion than an ideology. Highly religious people often interpret the act of not sharing their faith as a mental issue.

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It is a waste of time further discussing this with you, especially since you clearly ignore the factual history of Fox News and its environment of sexual harassment and settlements.

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Well, it's not that difficult to discuss with me. You only need to provide actual evidence of those alleged harassments. I don't mean accusations, I mean actual evidence. As easy as that.

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You are clueless and not worth my time. Do a Google search on Ailes, O Reilly and others at FoxNews.

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You are clueless and not worth my time. Do a Google search on Ailes, O Reilly and others at FoxNews.

Well, I checked the first case you mentioned (Ailes). The case was based solely on accusations. Zero evidence was provided.

I guess the others aren't much better.

I'll repeat what I said: "You only need to provide actual evidence of those alleged harassments". Obviously, you can't.

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Seriously, this is my last reply to your nonsense because you are obviously one without integrity and honesty proven by your continued denial of facts. All of the sexual harassment at Foxnews has been well documented. But to you a Bill Oreilly pay out to one woman (of several) of 30 million is not evidence. You must be a Fox PR person or a Qanon nut.

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I'll throw you a bone here and say that I'm sure there was something to at least some of the allegations, though it's worth noting that these days the term "sexual harassment" can refer to nearly anything where a man indicates he finds a woman desirable.

In any case, O'Reilly was fired, Ailes is dead, and it seems like the Fox execs have done a lot to clean up whatever issues the network had in that regard. Maybe Rose realizes that.

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Yep, to the FoxNews/Qanon folks, there is nothing to see about FoxNews' sexual harassment behavior....oops.....they just agreed to a hefty fine...

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-agrees-to-dollar1-million-fine-for-violating-human-rights-law?ref=home

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you are obviously one without integrity and honesty proven by your continued denial of facts

I'll let Christopher Hitchen answer you with what's known as the Hitchen's razor:
https://pics.me.me/hitchens-razor-what-can-be-asserted-without-evidence-can-be-21386496.png

I have asked you twice to link actual evidence. You haven't. And that which can be asserted without evidence can be equally dismissed.

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It really is a shame that CNN has gone the way that it has because it was once a genuinely useful news outlet. I miss the CNN of the 80s and 90s.

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It was a good interview and you should watch it. It doesn’t have to be about Fox News.

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Exactly.

I get tired of how every time you use Fox as a source for anything there's always someone who stands up and acts like nothing worthwhile ever comes out of the network or like there aren't any genuinely talented journalists there.

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Rose had to go on Fox because CNN, MSNBC, etc., wouldn't let her say that on TV.

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Right you are.

I don't think Fox is a perfect network--it's still corporate media--but you're going to hear stories and get perspectives that you definitely won't get from the other outlets.

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You are way too narrow-minded. It's like when people blamed ALL the police for the death of George Floyd. You can't blame all of Fox for a few incidents.

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Precisely.

I can't tell you how many times I've encountered people who just shut down whenever you use Fox as a source, despite the fact that the information presented is accurate and useful. Gotta give the Leftist media credit, they've done an excellent job of conditioning their viewers to immediately distrust and dismiss anything the competition says.

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rose looks fucking crazy now.......... acts like it too.

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I noticed that. She looks unwell physically and also seems mentally frazzled. You can tell the last couple of years have really been a strain on her.

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Rose McGowan has been blacklisted by Hollywood because of her political views.

Ostracism is hard, it takes a toll both to your finances and to your social life. It's hard for men, but it's even harder for women, since female psychology is mostly based in bonding. A man fears being a loser unable to fulfill his goals. A woman fears being judged and rejected by the people around her.

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Don't her political views pretty much line up with the rest of Hollywood? My understanding is it's the #MeToo stuff that's caused a rift.

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Up to a point. She's a rogue and speaks her mind, I give her that.
https://moviechat.org/nm0000535/Rose-McGowan/6087b897bb830e76e279fa0c/Rose-McGowan-denounces-the-Democrat-party-in-FOX-News-exclusive

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That's pretty surprising. I wasn't aware she had ever been on Fox before and definitely wasn't aware she had called the Democratic Party a cult on national TV.

Quite interesting. She looks healthier there than in the clip with Tucker. She at least seems like the kind of person you could sit down and have a conversation with and agree to disagree when necessary. I respect that.

I wish her the best.

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My big problem with the MeToo movement is that it happens to be too convenient. You make some accusations, no evidence required, zero risk, you destroy some career and reap the profits. What could go wrong?

But that was not the case here. McGowan made the accusations when Weinstein was at the top and when going against him seemed like a very bad idea. She took risks and lost some projects for being 'problematic'. Add to it that Weinstein being a predator was the most widely known open secret in Hollywood. There were even jokes about it in series. If I had to bet, I'd bet she's saying the truth.

I don't agree politically with her, I think she's wrong (politically). But I don't think it's fair to put her in the same bag than the usual Hollywood shady social climber.

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I definitely agree that an accusation by itself is not much evidence and it's certainly not proof of anything. I do feel bad for any girl who was genuinely assaulted and has nothing more than an accusation, because she was legitimately victimized and yet has no real way to prove it happened.

McGowan is, at least, a person who is willing to live according to her convictions. I'm certain I don't agree with all of her political views, but she at least seems like a sincere person who has courage and I can respect that.

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'female psychology is mostly based in bonding' I didn't realize that was a female trait, I've been under the impression that it's a 'human' trait.

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Well, you were wrong.

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LOL.

Well to be fair, I do think that socialization is important for both genders.

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Sure, but not in the same degree.

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So you are a psychologist?

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Oh, horseshit on her being blacklisted for her political views. You show no proof of that.

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"Rose McGowan has been blacklisted by Hollywood because of her political views."

what?? she is a left winger, and also had/have TDS

she is typical Hollywood!

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She's not typical Hollywood. She made lots of enemies when she openly criticized modern left.
https://moviechat.org/nm0000535/Rose-McGowan/6087b897bb830e76e279fa0c/Rose-McGowan-denounces-the-Democrat-party-in-FOX-News-exclusive

I like people who are independent and don't follow the herd, even when they're in the opposite political side.

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Her career was over a decade before she decided to go against the grain, which i think she did only to try to regain a little notoriety. She didn't get blacklisted as much as she just stopped being famous.

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Not at all

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