Barack Hussein Obamas passport, listing his place of origin (His Birthplace) as KENYA
https://twitter.com/mweed41/status/1647450819451842560?s=20
shareSo you think those images are more real than those of his birth certificate?
shareI thought Twitter was real news?
shareIn the ocean of nonsense on Twitter I do see important news worthy content that never will be shown on mainstream media!
shareI was referring to when Twitter was run by liberals. Anything reported on Twitter was real news.
Since Elon took over, its nice to see news that hasn't been scrubbed or suppressed by the liberal hive mind.
I'm not endorsing any political party in this regard:
The birth certificate of Obama, which was provided on WH.gov, was a digital rendition, meaning not the real thing (not a copy of...). It was merely a counter-PR stunt to push back on the Right's claim of Obama's illegitimacy.
That being said, your question is moot, unfortunately, because it's certainly based on the offering that the Obama administration "did" prove legal documents (b.c.) claiming Obama's legitimacy as president, which it did not.
The copy of my birth certificate that I have is a digital rendition that was printed out and mailed to me. It is not the real thing? What is a real birth certificate?
Decades ago when I ordered a copy of my BC, I got a copy of the one filled out in the early 1960's. It was just sent through a copy machine, impressed with a seal and signed by the person copying it. Was it the real thing?
The way most states do this now, including Hawaii, is that they send out a digital copy from their archives that is just a PDF file you can print out. Or they might print it out and send it by USPS. It lists the person's name, parents name, birth place and date. It is still a real BC or certificate of live birth, whatever you want to call it.
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0017_0007.htm
When a new certificate of birth is established under this section, it shall be substituted for the original certificate of birth. The new certificate shall not be marked as amended and shall in no way reveal the original language changed by any amendment. Thereafter, the original certificate and the evidence supporting the preparation of the new certificate shall be sealed and filed. The sealed documents shall be opened only by an order of a court of record or, for those documents amended pursuant to subsection (a)(4), by request of the birth registrant.
Anything the state sends to a person that is a record of their birth is legally a birth certificate as long as it conforms to the requirements of that state law.
Obama eventually obtained a copy of his 1961 document and posted a copy online. That was still not good enough for some people. share
With politics, nothing is easily settled as all "holes" have to be debunked before a group drops the subject and moves along to something else...
Once the administration posted Obama's b.c. (a pdf file), it was quickly noticed that there were like 8 or 9 layers, instead of a flat original paper copy to a flat digital copy (no layers). It was interesting how the debate grew.
How can a flat piece of paper convert into multiple layers in a digital copy?
A great rebuild was provided: some modern copy machines capture a photo by "sections" and then gather those sections into an image, hence multiple layers.
However, (going off on memory) nothing was established about what type of copy machine was used. I didn't mind so much as an "out" was reasonably president. Not 100%, but I was cool with it... When I had Photoshop, at the time, I was able to witness the layering effects within the sole *.pdf document; however, as pointed out some machines break up the data which can cause several layers in a single document.
Then there were a couple of counter-arguments that have always bothered me.
1) Letters copied/reused within the same document (i.e., as typewriter stamps onto paper are as unique as fingerprints, as some analysts stated at the time -- but I don't know much about typewriters as they were being phased out from when I was born -- so, I don't give it too much thought).
However, there has been no rebuttal to this argument that I know of.
2) I think there were three different main fonts. 1 prior to Obama's birth, and 2 after his birth (i.e., I mean fonts invented in the 70s).
There has been no rebuttal to this argument that I know of.
For me, I used to be curious about the authenticity of the pdf doc itself, and not so much regarding Obama being born in the US or not. If those two issues were to have been rebuffed with fact-based arguments, I think most people would have dropped the issue altogether, but that's just my opinion lol
PS: I too had to order b.c. in the past (i.e., I wished they'd had copies of my baby feet. It was on my original). Yes, new ink, new paper, fresh stamped seal but same fonts and original doctor and parents' signatures.
But the common counterargument would have been, a willing government would do what it needs/wants to meet its goals, legal/eligible. All I could only conclude from such a statement is that society and government society cohesion (e.g., a compact) had dissolved further, a red-flag -- not to say those concerns were with or without merit.
I'm surprised this issue is still being brought up, let alone on social media -- I never cared to click on the OP's twitter link. haha
I see all of these claims, some dubious, others less so. These claims about pdf layers, is there proof they actually exist or not? None of them prove that Obama was not a natural born citizen.
For all of the bluster on pdf layers, no one ever displayed the layers, they just simply claimed they existed.
You think something (fonts) existed? There is no rebuttal required for something you have no rational reason to believe exists.
Why is it that only Obama's BC was held to these imaginary standards and not the BC's of anyone else? Did Clinton, Bush, Trump, Biden or any other president ever have to provide the same documentation that Obama did?
I see all of these claims, some dubious, others less so. These claims about pdf layers, is there proof they actually exist or not? None of them prove that Obama was not a natural born citizen.
That's always been my thought process on the topic.
For all of the bluster on pdf layers, no one ever displayed the layers, they just simply claimed they existed.
No true... It's been like 13 years, but I remember seeing videos breaking down the layers, and like I said, I viewed the different layers myself at home; but that all could be moot as it could be explained away by some copy machines do in fact break images up into different layers instead of a single flat image -- like I stated before.
You think something (fonts) existed? There is no rebuttal required for something you have no rational reason to believe exists.
Sorry, I don't understand what you mean there. For example, there is a certain point in time when only single-paned glass existed and when double-pane glass was patented and manufactured; however, both were made of glass. Like with font, all fonts were not created at once. Some were recreations of older fonts or mimicked typewriter default fonts, but with computers and software, a plethora of fonts was created. Some fonts were created during technological milestones (of their time) like in the 70s -- however, found their way onto Obama's '61 b.c.
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Why is it that only Obama's BC was held to these imaginary standards and not the BC's of anyone else? Did Clinton, Bush, Trump, Biden or any other president ever have to provide the same documentation that Obama did?
I hear yah. Obama was singled out in modern politics, never mind John McCain vs Hilary Clinton (2004 prez election); but, yes during Barrack Obama vs Hilary Clinton (2008 Dem prez nom election) birthright citizenship was 'first' brought up. It was Hilary's campaign that propagated the stories and published photos of this topic of Obama to third parties, initially, but the Right took hold of it and with went with it.
The whole issue was fake to begin with; however, the b.c. pdf file was also a fabrication. But whatever, the whole issue is moot at this point. Didn't really matter then than it does now. share