How can someone be that naïve? He's just being politically correct and trying to avoid being called a racist. Ideology will always correlate with race. If current immigration continues, within the next few elections, Republicans will never win national elections again
shareI don't understand why so many people think the "flood the US with immigrants who will blindly vote democrat" is such a smart plan. Sure, some of them will be sure to just want to sit around and take money from the government. The majority though I suspect will be no different to all the immigrants that came decades ago to start a new life. No safety net, no government coddling, just the will to be prosperous.
I struggle to believe these types of immigrants will continue to vote democrat when their policies are hurting them in terms of taxation on their businesses etc.
The way California has gone from a Republican to a stupidly soiled Dem state, kind of says otherwise.
shareI think rigged elections has a lot to do with that. CA is considered a Democratic bastion now. It would be incredibly embarrassing for them to lose it so they play dirty.
shareI think you are misunderstanding how indoctrinated people on the Left are, by the CONSTANT propaganda from media, pop culture and politicians. I wish that you were right, but I think you are being overly optimistic.
sharecubans have been pretty receptive to republicans.
latino voters have trended democratic, but not overwhelmingly so. in florida, texas and other states they're close, almost an even split.
it is not ordained or determined that immigrants will prefer the democratic party.
if republicans are open to immigrants, welcoming, and speak for some basic, important things - free markets! school choice! - there's no reason to think they can't be a smashing success.
Absolutely. I'm just saying it's a risky plan on the dem's part to expect an army of democratic voting immigrants as a result of their questionable handling of the border crisis.
shareLol! Replacement theory bullshit. Only American citizens are eligible to vote so immigration without naturalization is irrelevant. Nice talking point though.
shareSomething tells me this comment won't age well lol
shareAnswer me this:
Who do Cuban immigrants overwhelmingly vote for?
Keep believing in the Boogeyman breh.😒
Answer me this: What percentage of immigrants are Cubans?
shareDo you think democrats are allowing this mass illegal immigration without the end goal of acquiring an army of new democratic voters?
shareIt's not bullshit. Demographics clearly predict Whites to become minority in 2040. Immigrants are becoming citizens.
shareBecause they are promised free everything if they do. That's why they are coming here in the first place. The Dems know if they can get them here, they will vote Democrat.
shareIf I had nothing, I'd absolutely make my way to the US for free stuff if I was the right colour. However, after setting up a business and making money, I'd vote for whoever made my life as best as possible and part of that is reducing government and paying as little taxes as possible.
shareTrue but they are very reliable Dem voters. Look at California. That was done through millions of illegal aliens who are today reliable Dem voters. They literally changed that state so they could win it. And it's now like a foreign country.
shareThe social environment is more important than race
A rich black person can have more interest in common with other rich white people than with another poor black
Say ideology is conditioned by your ADN is actually racist there's no proof of such a thing, that a racial group tend to have similar ideology is way more related to the social-economical situation they shared more than their race itself
There are VERY deep cultural differences among White Americans and Hispanic Immigrants. Americans have more individualistic culture, while Latinos are more collectivist. That is why Latin America has always gravitated towards socialism the US had to intervene during the Cold War. Also according to mainstream science, political views are around 40% heritable meaning genetic. Hispanics have NEVER voted more than 35% Republican in American history and the burden of proof should be on those who claim they will.
shareOf course, exist differences between race and cultures nobody denies that but such differences are more influenced by environment than ADN
Americans have more individualistic culture, while Latinos are more collectivist.
Latin America has always gravitated towards socialism
political views are around 40% heritable meaning genetic
"Rich nations, in general, have more individualistic cultures Japan, Germany,
etc are good examples is a characteristic of economical wealth not genetic."
No true. There are deep differences in individualism vs collectivism within Europe and within countries that are rich. Here is a map: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2_2eHwCIAAnAvV.jpg
"That is actually not true Cubans living in the USA are in their majority republicans and procapitalist, why? because they run away from socialism and communism their personal experiences define their political beliefs"
Wrong. Cubans in US are capitalist, because the ones who are socialist stay and the ones who are capitalist flee to the US. Self selection. If Cubans are so naturally capitalist, how come Cuba is still socialist despite the fact socialism collapsed in most of the world 30 years ago?
"Religious beliefs are also heritable people who grow as Cristian would become in adult Christians same with muslins, Buddhist, etc, is also religious beliefs genetic? or is more logical to think are more cultural influenced?"
Yes, weather or not someone is religious is heavily heritable.
Ok, for some reason you are obsessed with oversimplification and want complex problems to have just one factor or explanation
Individualism and collectivism can have multiple factors without necessary be ADN one of them
No true. There are deep differences in individualism vs collectivism within Europe and within countries that are rich
Self selection
If Cubans are so naturally capitalist, how come Cuba is still socialist despite the fact socialism collapsed in most of the world 30 years ago?
BTW I notice you see everything from a first-world person perspective, People don't choose to live in a dictatorship that is why is a dictatorship because people don't have the right to vote. People don't always choose collectivism over individualism sometimes people are collectivist out of need, sometimes you don't have choice
And I'm going to jump and respond to you with something you have not say yet
"if Cubans don't like communism why they don't revolt against the government? the outnumbered the politicians that are proof they choose communism "
That is like saying slaves choose to be slaves and the proof is that in many cases they outnumbered their owners, you don't need to outnumber a group of people to subject them.
Neither are north Korean naturally drive to be oppressed and starve to death BTW but tradition and even self-preservation can mold someone behavior and make you make peace with a terrible situation to not risk your life and the life of your family, when something becomes the natural order you accept it as such, meaning the environment make you see something unnatural as natural
Not your ADN the environment, and the environment can be a lot of factors from family to everything surround you
I do not deny there are personal experience reasons for why people vote the way they do, I am just saying that on a holistic level which what are talking about, there are very deep reasons they tend to vote Democrat and it's not likely to change any time soon. There could even be genetic reasons, as I've said political views are about 40% heritable. Hispanics have never net voted Republican in history. The Republican strategy of inviting millions of Hispanics into America and hope they will one day start voting for them is naïve and self destructive to the Republican party. And it is the burden of proof on those that think they will change their vote, not mine.
share"political views are around 40 percent heritable meaning genetic"
The most stupid thing I'm likely to read for quite a while.
And also Hispanics have an average IQ of round 90 meaning they will always be disproportionately working class hence more likely to vote Democrat.
shareI'm not even entering into a debate about that, there are studies that prove the earth is flat, that every white person is racist and mansplaining is a real thing, in the right circumstances I can make a study with the same results about Americans, french, germans and Japanese
But what are the particular circumstances of every person who was part of that study, were immigrant, poor, are part of a particular religious minority, are in one particular city or trough an entire nation? can be a lot of factors explaining those results without jump to scream ADN that is just bad science, correlation does not imply causality, and if you like name studies you should know that basic fact
What are you talking about? IQ. Hispanic IQ is 90, it's not result of poverty or a small sample. And IQ does measure intelligence, is highly predictive of life success and is the most scientifically valid psychometric. I do not base my argument on Hispanic tendency to vote Democrat only on IQ (as Asians are a high IQ group), yet still vote Democrat, but it's one of the factors. Different groups vote for the same parties for different reasons. Culture is the main reason that Hispanics vote Democrat and the burden of proof is on hose that say their votes will change.
shareCulture is the main reason that Hispanics vote Democrat
Say ideology is conditioned by your ADN is actually racist there's no proof of such a thing, that a racial group tend to have similar ideology is way more related to the social-economical situation they shared more than their race itself
Also according to mainstream science, political views are around 40% heritable meaning genetic.
Nothing I said is contradictory. I said political views are 40% heritable according to mainstream science. That is not majority. So me saying that culture is the main reason a group votes a certain way does not contradict my previous statement that 40% of political views are heritable.
And I have no idea what you mean by saying that a claim people are genetically predisposed to vote a certain way is "racist". What I said was a scientific claim about the reality. Not a value judgement of what society should be. This claim can be either true or not true, but it cannot be "racist" no more it can be "heretical". Either dispute this scientific claim or accept it. Calling it "racist" is not an argument.
And remember we are talking about predispositions, not pre determinations. Those two are not the same. Of course people can change their mind, but if the 40% of the variance is genetically predisposed, they are less likely to do so giving legitimacy to my original point that it's naïve and self destructive for Republican party to hope Hispanics will one day vote Republican and continue to bring them into the country.
What many people don't get is what in one single man is predisposition, in a group of men it becomes predetermination.
That has been debated before. There's even a quote in a Sherlock Holmes story referencing this topic:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Winwood_Reade#References_in_literature
hey goy shut up and listen to this smart man! he knows what is good for you goy!!
shareRace is just a bunch of physical attributes. Beliefs, culture - these things really matter.
shareNo, it's not. Extent to which race is important is actively being covered up by all institutions in our society. It is very important when building a society.
shareWhat? Why? How does skin or hair color affect building of a society?
shareSkin colour correlates with genes influencing human psychology and thus behaviour. Theoretically it ultimately does not matter, since you could in theory "breed" a very intelligent population out of any race if you had control over people's reproductive choices, but in practice it will never happen so race matters.
shareThere are not such genes. This is absolute rubbish.
I mean, xenophobia (as in fear of otherness) is an evolutionary survival trait and racism is the easiest way to process it but that doesn't mean anything. An adult self-aware individual is fully capable of overcoming\integrating that crap just like we do with other stuff we inherited from earlier epochs. At least in a safe, civilized society.
There absolutely are. The evidence is overwhelming if only you are willing to be open minded.
shareThere are not such genes.
Race is important to racists.
shareNo, it's important to everyone weather you are willing to believe it or not. The egalitarian disposition towards race is a logical fallacy. They believe since race isn't important on an individual level therefore it's not important at all. Well, just because it might not be important when we're talking about an individual doesn't mean it's not important on a collective level. A country made up of 5 million Gypsies is going to be radically different than a country made up of 5 million Ashkenazi Jews.
shareKeep rationalizing your racism. Don’t be a racist. Get educated instead. Outside of modern academe’s left wing racist propaganda.
shareI am educated. This is why I am a so called "racist". True education (as opposed to indoctrination) leads to developing racial awareness. Why do you think big tech has to censor free speech for so called "hatred"? Because the truth isn't on their side. If it was, they wouldn't need to censor it. They could just debunk it.
share>> Outside of modern academe’s left wing racist propaganda.
You know, that is a dead accurate tell of a right wing nut.
He's too afraid of crossing the line of what's politically correct and being destroyed. Don't believe for a moment he's safe. If wokes decide to destroy him, they'll do. And he knows it.
And yeah, you're right. Ethnic background is linked to culture, and culture shapes ideology. Of course, it's not a 100% rule, but it applies to most people, and society thrives or collapses depending on averages. South-America is a shithole because most of the people have a similar mindset. So what about exceptions? Sure, there's people in South-America who have a more North-European mindset, but the majority doesn't, and that's what matters.
They don't now. When you look at the dirty tricks they play all over the place ( read Thom Hartmann's Secret History Of The War on Voting - man it is an eye-opener ) Republicans have been working to prevent democracy and limit it as much as they can, and combine that with the fact they can't seem to wing the popular vote, they have to use all the racist inspired tricks in our system to disqualify hundreds of thousands of people in all our elections , Republicans do not deserve to win elections.
shareThat is nothing compared to the most treacherous kind of cheating - Importing votes which is what the Democrats are doing. They can't appeal to the American public so they simply import voters by keeping the borders open.
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