The bride-to-be actually gets to have a personality. I can appreciate old films and there certainly are no actors left like Audrey, Humphrey, and Fred, but I can only handle so much blatant sexism. Kay is just an accessory and just a caricature of womanhood. I found the whole film seriously, seriously obnoxious.
shareSexism? Where the hell did you get that? Because Kay is actually a mature, responsible young woman who actually loves and respects her father?? After feminism, men turned into the biggest jokes to their daughters... because they took away a man's authority in the home.
By the way, I love watching Fred Astaire and Humphrey Bogart as much as anyone. But, this movie features one of the greatest actors in film history, Spencer Tracy. I have no idea why you brought "Fred" up.
Diane Keaton was good, but she never felt like she actually believed in the concept of "til death do us part." After feminism, most men quickly learned that they couldn't trust women for anything... and that's why divorce rates started skyrocketing. And Diane played a total control freak. George couldn't breathe without annoying her. BUT, Joan Bennett definitely believed in "til death do us part." She was the perfect image of a perfect housewife and George wasn't fighting her or criticizing her for being a woman... as the feminists would have you believe. It was all Joan's choice to be the perfect housewife. Don't forget. Women were actually enforcing gender roles too. Also, like most post-feminist men, Steve Martin turned George into a much bigger emotional train wreck / weanie. Men need role models that are not emotional basket cases. For god's sake, men can be emotional without being insane. Men need more stable role models and the great Spencer Tracy is a perfect male role model.
I used to love the remake, but now I see a lot of problems with it.
I saw about half an hour of this version and it looked like a waste of great talent. Normally I love Spencer Tracy, but in the scenes which I saw, he was simply awful.
This version was made in 1950, so it's not surprising that Kay would have had 1950s attitudes towards life/marriage.
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This version was made in 1950, so it's not surprising that Kay would have had 1950s attitudes towards life/marriage.
I didn't say that there was anything wrong with it.
And I doubt that there are too many people today who will be married as many times as Liz Taylor was.
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The remake was pleasant but pointless. It lacked Minnelli's elan, class,
elegance and wit. And Steve Martin (seriously, the most overrated performer
of the 20th century) cannot touch Spencer Tracy. And Liz is a gorgeous
legend. Who the HELL would even remember the girl who played "Kay" in the
remake? The Martin film is already fairly forgotten anyway.
The remake certainly didn't hold up well. I used to love it as a teen, but when I saw it about 12 or so years ago, it struck me as being somewhat of an annoying film. Steve Martin has never been a fave of mine, although I loved him in Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid. If he had been born about 30 years earlier, he would have been a great noir actor.
Spencer Tracy was a top-notch performer, for sure. He and Kate Hepburn made a great team in the movies which they did together.
The leading lady of the remake was known for this one role, and then she just faded into obscurity.
I saw part of the original and I didn't care to give the entire film a chance. I think that the story itself (both original and remake) is a poor one. A young lady lets her parents know very suddenly that she's getting married, and basically she turns into a bridezilla afterwards. Not sure about the original, but in the remake, she couldn't even be bothered to do the father-daughter dance. In fact, she doesn't even talk in person with her dad after the ceremony.
One thing about the remake...isn't this the film which single-handedly changed which song is played when the bride walks down the aisle? It used to be "Here comes the bride...", but now it's Pachelbel's Canon in D.
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Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen
I refused to walk down the aisle to that snoozer, Pachelbel's Canon in D and put everyone to sleep. Had to be Trumpet Voluntary by Purcell or nothing. After all, I was a princess (sigh).
That said, that $400 cake would cost $4000.00 today.
As for Spencer Tracy, Marlon Brando said he loved to watch him act...in anything. He knew how good Tracy was. The man made it look effortless. Now, don't tell me you have a problem with Brando, too. 😜
Here is what I said about Spencer Tracy in my earlier post:
Spencer Tracy was a top-notch performer, for sure. He and Kate Hepburn made a great team in the movies which they did together.
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There's nothing sexist about it. It's a film that focuses on the father of the bride, hence the name. Just because it's a film about a wedding doesn't mean the bride needs to be the focus of attention. If not automagically having a female be the main character in a wedding film is sexism to you then you have the problem, not the film.
I find the idea that having every film fit to some extreme politically correct mold serious, seriously obnoxious.
So true. It's The Father of the Bride, not The Bride and her Father. It was a timeless story about a father dealing with his firstborn's upcoming wedding. She willl always be his "little girl" and he feels a bit of sadness at the prospect of being replaced in her heart. He's also feeling sadness about the hit in the wallet that he's about to experience.
The film is a wonderful adaptation of the book by Edward Streeter. He also wrote Mr. Hobbs Vacation where the father is the focus of a family vacation. Mr. Streeter's protagonists were men. Nothing wrong with that.
If you watch Steel Magnolias, the story is told from the women's point of view. Two of them are married and their husbands have barely a couple of lines of dialogue. Some films are only told from a certain POV. Nothing wrong with that.