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Old things in this show that seem foreign to anybody like me born in the 80s.


Let me say I do like this show but some things were foreign to me cause of when I grew up.

Andy saying in the episode Opie and the Spoiled kid that 75 cents was a lot of money for a kid. When I was a kid in the early 90s it could only buy a candy bar for 75 cents. I admit Candy bars were 48 cents plus tax at Wal Mart and sometimes were 25 cents. But a kid would want something more than just a candy bar. Also just about any action figure I wanted as a kid was at least $5. So 75 cents seems low in the world I grew up in. I know it was a lot more back then. But to a kid in the 90s watching it, it seemed foreign.

Barney and Andy being the only cops in the town. Even a small town, there would have been way more cops in today's world.

The whole alcohol being illegal in Mayberry. Very outdated in today's world.

Playing cowboys and Indians. Foreign to me since I mainly played with action figures as a kid.

The Riding bikes on the sidewalk in Opie and the spoiled kid. If I got a dollar for every time I saw a person ride a bike on the sidewalk I could probably buy a good used car.

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Moonshine was illegal but I would imagine that wine, beer, and spirits sold through stores were no problem. TAGS did not show that because that was part of the escapism that television pushed during the 1960's. That aside Andy Griffith himself said that Mayberry was already a dated idea when the show premiered in 1960. That Mayberry as shown would be typical for an American small town just prior to the Great Depression. Like you hinted at most of the downtown business district would be gone in favor of big box stores. Having said that the pedestrian laws and vehicle laws shown would still be enforced in most towns and cities today.

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It was viewed as a quaint town by many of the visitors.

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I did an inflation calculation and .75 in 1965 is equal to 6.32 today. Not a lot of money, you're right. But it's still enough for a kid to get some stuff.

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According to my dad who was a kid in the early 60s, at the time the episode came out you could buy a brand new comic for 10 cents at the time. So 75 cents was enough to buy 7 new comic books. Which to get that many new comics in today's world would be $28. Which is quite a lot of money for a kid now.

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When I was growing up in the mid to late 70s the typical comic book was about 35 cents with some thicker ones being 60 cents or a dollar.

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I wasn't aware. That certainly isn't the case where I live in Southern Illinois.

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Was Mayberry dry?? I thought the only time they dealt with it was illegal moonshinning.

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I may have assumed it was dry because of the moonshine and the fact Otis went to jail everytime he drank. I assumed he didn't always drink moonshine.

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Cocktails/mixed drinks were not allowed in North Carolina until the late 70ss and that was a county by county decision. Some counties still may not all them. Beer and wine were available in bars and restaurants.

That being said, there is an episode where nurse Peggy orders a cocktail in a French resturant. That would not have happened.

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Spirits must be purchased state run stores. Some restaurants/bars had brown bagging licenses, which allowed you in to bring in spirits and you would buy mixers from the establishment.

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I'm the same age as Opie (Ron Howard). When I was a kid in the early 1960s, my dad started me out on 25 cents allowance, which eventually made it to a dollar after a few years. A candy bar or a Coke was 10 cents, a comic book was 15 cents.

In the early '60s, my grandfather was the one and only cop in Long Beach, Washington. He didn't even have a "Barney" to help him.

There were still quite a few towns in the early '60s where you couldn't get alcohol. It's still difficult to find in Utah.

We played cowboys and Indians all the time, except when we were playing army. All the boys had toy handguns and rifles. Many boys had real .22 rifles, and their dads took them shooting.

In the early '60s kids rode their bikes all the time, without adult supervision, on the street, not on the sidewalk. We rode to school, to the store, to the park, or anywhere else we wanted to go. Always on the street.

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I understand the rule for not riding bikes on sidewalks but that was only because cars went slower through towns back then.
Riding on sidewalks is kind of the only safe way to ride in my town as there's a ton of traffic going through all the roads. You are liable to get hit by them. Though I suppose it would depend on the kind of bike you have. Mine can only go about 15 miles an hour. The speed limit is over 30 miles an hour on some roads in my town so I probably would get hit by a car if I did. There have been quite a few cars hitting bikes on roads in my town.

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Even today in most jurisdictions, bicycles, horses and other conveyances must abide by same rules as cars, which means no riding on the sidewalk, going in the same direction as cars, and using hand signals unless your conveyance has light signals. Look it up. It's probably in the manual your study to get your driver's license.

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This road looks safe for bicyles to you?
https://www.billburmaster.com/rmsandw/illinois/images/ebil13atwall0818.jpg

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Your response has nothing to do with what I posted.

Since you mentioned Illionois:

https://www.ilsos.gov/departments/drivers/traffic_safety/bikepedsafety.html#:~:text=Bicyclists%20are%20prohibited%20on%20limited-access%20highways%2C%20expressways%20and,just%20to%20the%20right%20of%20faster%20moving%20traffic.

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I don't care. I am not going to get myself killed riding my bike into traffic that is going to hit me going 35-40 miles an hour. You don't know my town. There are hundreds of fast moving cars on most of the roads all day long and I will be killed if I ride my bike on them. There's so many cars all the time people can't get into the lane they want much less get into a lane to avoid hitting a bicylist.

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When I was a kid, riding my bike on the street, in the early 1960s, the cars went the same speed cars go now. This wasn't just the way it was in one town. We moved a lot, and I lived in several different cities. We rode on residential streets and commercial boulevards. Speed limits and drivers who exceeded them were the same as today.

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We played cowboys and Indians all the time, except when we were playing army. All the boys had toy handguns and rifles. Many boys had real .22 rifles, and their dads took them shooting.


Yep. Most kids had western type six shooters, but I had (and wish I still did) a respectable heavy metal replica of a German Luger. I don't remember it having a cap pistol type mechanism, but boy was it realistic.

I had a .22 when I was 14 because my older brothers and their friends belonged to a local shooting club, and I was handed down a Marlin .22 which I still have (and use to plunk squirrels with CB caps).

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Wow, I wish I had that replica Luger you had! Once my dad gave me an old wooden one-piece stock/fore-stock from a real rifle he was having a custom stock made for. It was minus the steel barrel and action, but all the other kids were envious when we played army. My .22 was a Remington bolt-action single-shot I got for my eighth birthday. My dad would take me to the rifle range, or out to the desert to plink tin cans. When I was older, I was allowed to shoot at pigeons, which were a real nuisance, from the back yard with CB caps. Wish I still had that little rifle!

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There's a regional issue here as well. Mayberry is a small town in the South. In LA or Chicago in the 60's, Mayberry would have seemed foreign to them.

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This. There are still places in the US that are dry.

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When they want to make a phone call, they pick up the receiver and speak to the switchboard operator in town, Sarah.

Today it is rare to speak to ANY live person on the phone when you request help. It's always a recording.

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Do you have the same issues with period oieces?

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No. It's just fun to discuss how things were then and how they are now.

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In North Carolina at that time:
Cocktails/mixed drinks were not allowed in North Carolina until the late 70ss and that was a county-by-county decision. Some counties still may not all them. Beer and wine were available in bars and restaurants.

That being said, there is an episode where nurse Peggy orders a cocktail in a French restaurant. That would not have happened.

Some restaurants/bars had brown bagging licenses, which allowed yo to bring in spirits and you would buy mixers from the establishment.

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Back then stores were really serious about shoplifters. In one episode Barney disguises himself as a mannequin to find someone who is stealing from a local store.

Today they don't stop you even if they SEE you. I know a woman who works in the local drugstore and she says that they aren't allowed to detain people even if they see them putting merchandise in their pockets. Our local Wal Mart (and probably others) has told clerks not to stop people who walk out without paying. It's for their own safety because clerks have been stabbed or shot when they detain thieves.

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Well, 75¢ was significantly more money in the early 60s than it was in the 80s -- U.S. money inflated a lot during the 70s. In 1983, it took $3.25 to buy what $1 would have bought in 1963, and by 1990, that was up to $4.27. I was born in 1968, so as a kid in the 70s, I could buy comic books for 25¢ each, and a large Slurpee at 7 Eleven for even less. Prices on the show didn't seem strange to me.

Mayberry was a quiet, small town with very little crime; there really were places with no round-the-clock law enforcement, but a sheriff, who would be on call for serious incidents.

Mayberry might have just been in a dry county. There are still some around today, and ironically, the Jack Daniel's distillery is located in one of them -- their product can't be legally sold in the place where it's made.

I played cowboys and Indians lots as a kid, or cops and robbers. Kids of my generation and earlier spent more time outside growing up, and I think we were much better off for it.

I saw lot of kids riding bikes on the sidewalk too. Nobody minded if it was small children, but by the time you were getting into your teens, you weren't supposed to, and most of us didn't. I also think there was more respect for rules in general when I was growing up than there is today, even the small ones.

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I wasn't born til the late 80s so the concept of 75 cents being a lot of money was foreign to me when I watched this as a kid. When I was a kid a candy bar at a store was about 50 cents with tax and a new comicbook was $2. Now new comics are $4. I guess the reason I ride on the sidewalk is that I can't ride a bike very fast. Only can make it go 5-10 miles an hour unless I am on a steep hill which in my town there aren't very many. I'm not very hand eye coordinated. Can't safely drive a car. Which is why I ride a bike.

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