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Unfortunate representation of African Americans!


The alternative 1985, the dystopian, the “nightmare”.

What did the director think would fit this nightmare reality? A black family living in Marty’s house. That’s right, black folk have moved into their neighbourhood. One of those “there goes the neighbourhood” storylines.

But it gets worse.

The black father, dressed in a wife beater, attempts to smash in Marty’s head with a baseball bat. He’s so unhinged that he whacks his daughters personal belongings instead, smashing up the room. He’s presented as a gorilla on a rampage, so enraged that he can’t think straight. Violence, not dialogue, is his recourse.

I’m surprised this isn’t spoken of more. Such terrible representation. They used black people to paint a “dystopian” and that’s pretty sad.

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Interesting point for sure, but one could also say that the corporate representation of Biff Tannen in alternate 1985 represents the (at the time) 'Donald Trump's' of the world, where the crazy rich old white guy is running the town and is all the praise of the corporate criminal elite and cohorts. There's a bit of a balance here, and then there is that same common denominator, 'alternate' 1985--which does not represent actual 1985.

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That’s not balancing because Biff is just one of many white characters.

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this movie is not racist you fucking moron snowflake sjw libtard!!! it is just that the future is bad and that the neighborhood that was once white and clean is now a poor ghetto with tons of crime. that is why blacks live there. it is not racism. do not call this movie racist because not everything is racist nowadays like the news tells you.

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They used blacks as a “there goes the neighbourhood” narrative. With desegregation taking place in the 70s (due to redlining being ruled illegal), it was an issue for white neighbourhoods well into the 80s.

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yeah but that is all facts and science and real history. you cannot say movies about slavery are racist for showing white people whipping black people becuz that all actually happened. so yah the neighborhood is now bad but that is what happebs in real life. if it were fake then all hoods and inner cities would be gated communities but no they arent.

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I always felt THE black family being in the dystopian version of Marty's 1985 house/neighborhood was always a bit cringey but it could have been a lot worse. Honestly I think your "gorilla on a rampage" description of the scene was more offensive than the scene itself. It was an understandable (if slightly over the top for comedic effect) reaction of father finding a random dude in his screaming daughter's bedroom in the middle of the night. To me, the humor of the scene always outweighed the offensiveness of the set up. "You damn right you made a mistake!" still cracks me up every time.

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I've probably seen this movie 20 times in my life, and never once did I think any of the following:

A) That the fact that the family living in the house was black was a sign that the neighborhood was now dystopian; only that it was an indicator that something had changed.
B) That the fact they were black meant that they were a "representation" of black people in general.
C) That there was anything wrong or uncalled for about the fathers reaction to finding a strange man in his screaming daughters bed in the middle of the night.

You, on the other hand, watched the scene and apparently thought "Oh, they're black so the neighborhood is clearly a hellhole now, this is a representation of what black people are like, and the father looks like an irrational, violent gorilla on a rampage."

Is it at ALL possible that perhaps the problem is YOU?

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No, because it was painting a picture of a dystopian alternative and they chose the brushstrokes on purpose.

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The same here. I have seen this movie several times and I have never associated the presence of a black family there with something negative .

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congratulations. you are sane movie watcher. you are intelligence. you are what all normal movie fan should be.

if you are liberal woketard movie watcher it mean you do not connect to film on story level. you connect to it on thing like race and way people look.

that is why all movie shit now. movie watcher see things not the way OP sees it and not you. you represent older movie fan from pre-woketard age. OP is from woketard age.

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The reason you see racism everywhere is because you are a racist.

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I agree, it is unfortunate and racist.
But mostly the idea is: this is NOT the McFly residence. You get right away the idea because everybody is not white, rather than think Marty entered his sister's room if they were white instead.
So race is used to grasp the plot quickly.

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I never saw that as being racist.

There was just another family there that he didn't recognise, and the man flipped out when he found a teenage boy in his daughter's bedroom. I don't think that we were meant to read anything into the fact that they were black.

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I don't think that we were meant to read anything into the fact that they were black.

Well, back in 89 the writers could not have envisioned the pure trolling and pettiness that keyboard assclowns would go to to get a bit of attention by pointing out imagined "racism"

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didn't see it as racist my dad would have been smashing the daylights out of anything which snuck into my room at night and upset me too.

The guy did not have a gun btw. Biff did.

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